Letus35 Mini - new 35mm adapter for HV20

[DeGrey]

Hey everyone, I wanted to let you know that we have just released the new Letus35 Mini. This adapter was specifically built for users with smaller cameras. Thought I would give you all a heads up as sites like this full of creative film makers was the inspiration for producing this little adapter.

You can read more about the adapter here (http://www.letusdirect.com/cart/Letus35-Mini-p-21.html). We'll be adding more information to the site as time progresses. Wanted to give you all a jump on it as we have a small stock on hand ready to ship.

For those of you familiar with the Mini's big brother, the Extreme, here is a comparison image showing the size difference:

http://www.letusdirect.com/images/misc/mini-vs-extreme-1.jpg

Enjoy!

[wolferic]

looks good. And seems like a reasonable price point. looking forward to seeing some images and hearing some reviews...

[CJDaniels]

Ok, I am thinking of buying one and, I have a several Canon EF Lenses, I don't think I have any FD lenses anymore but will dig.... I know that using th FD Lenses will give me the option of setting the apeture, but do I need that? Don't you control the apeture on the camcorder or am I better off with an FD lens and full control? I know I can get my hands on FD 50mm 1.4 if I need to.

The other question I have is, since the price difference is negligable. Am I better off with the Extreme if I end up with a larger camera down the line?

Does the Mini provide a more tailored fit and better image quality for the HV20?

[duketh]

i wonder what afircanmartys response to this is going to be

[tehellet]

Wow that looks really good. I can't wait to see footage.

# Absolutely no vignetting
# Best edge-to-edge sharpness in the industry

These two, however, we'll have to see how the adapter fares. I tend to see them as fairly delicate details, but if this adapter lives up to its claims, kudos!

[DeGrey]

CJDaniels,
You are better off if you can control the aperture on the 35mm lens and leave your camera alone. The FD 50mm 1.4 is a great lens. I have one of those here that I use.

You can still use the EF lenses however. Our users have been attaching their EF lens to an EOS body, setting the aperture they want, then removing the lens without powering down to keep the aperture set. Of course this can be quite clunky if you are in the middle of a shoot.

[mattias]

this looks very cool. too bad i just decided upon a diy adapter since i thought the letus was too big for my purposes. :-)

/matt

[mbamber]

Too expensive in my view. Still waiting for Neil's DIY adapter in the mail.

[mattias]

expensive compared to what? it's a flipping adapter, and i doubt you can even find the materials for that price if you want to build your own...

/matt

[RockyRoad2929]

expensive compared to what? it's a flipping adapter, and i doubt you can even find the materials for that price if you want to build your own...

/matt

How do you figure that out, Matt? Trust me, they are making money. I presume the cost for them to make it...is about $500.00 Sure, the flipping optical is nice feature for the price...if you look at Cinvate Brevis adaptor (flip version) isn't out yet, they want about $400 extra for the flipping design. I find that pricey.

My two cents worth...

[24Peter]

Hey everyone, I wanted to let you know that we have just released the new Letus35 Mini. This adapter was specifically built for users with smaller cameras. Thought I would give you all a heads up as sites like this full of creative film makers was the inspiration for producing this little adapter.

You can read more about the adapter here (http://www.letusdirect.com/cart/Letus35-Mini-p-21.html). We'll be adding more information to the site as time progresses. Wanted to give you all a jump on it as we have a small stock on hand ready to ship.

For those of you familiar with the Mini's big brother, the Extreme, here is a comparison image showing the size difference:

http://www.letusdirect.com/images/misc/mini-vs-extreme-1.jpg

Enjoy!

How much light loss is there with the mini? (The site says the Extreme has only 1/2 stop which is pretty awesome.)

[sonu2c]

its too pricey if you want to spend $1100 wouldn't you be better with redrock m2 indie hd bundle for $1200 wich comes with evrything like support rods and follow fucus

[Tõnis]

When I think about it`s price I don`t see it as expensive cause the image is upright so no monitor and battery to lug around and you can use tripod heads like the new 501HDV intended for lighter camcorders.
Weight and volume are the main reasons to consider the HV20 and the Letus Mini combo but that`s when you have to carry your own equipment, visit remote areas etc.
On more thing, it has much wider frame than the M2 and it`s brighter and sharper too.
I hope to get my hands on the Mini Letus35 soon enough.

Cheers,
T

[mattias]

How do you figure that out, Matt? Trust me, they are making money.
um, did you think i was suggesting that they didn't? i'm a little insulted. :-) there are plenty of things you can buy at almost the same price or even lower than it would cost to build it yourself. that's why we have industrial production.

/matt

[mattias]

its too pricey if you want to spend $1100 wouldn't you be better with redrock m2 indie hd bundle for $1200 wich comes with evrything like support rods and follow fucus
ok, let's recap: somebody posts about a new adapter that is very small and doesn't require support, and that flips the image, and you're saying potential buyers would be better off with one of the biggest ones, requiring support and that doesn't flip the image? was that about right? ;-)

what i'm trying to say is that the whole point of this adapter is that it's small and that it flips the image. you'll hear the same talk about sharpness and light loss from any manufacturer so never mind that.

/matt

[sonu2c]

hey Tonis how do you know it has wider frame rate and sharper and brighter if you havn't used it.? just trying to learn man cause i trying to make a decision which adapter to get.

[CBarce]

When I think about it`s price I don`t see it as expensive cause the image is upright so no monitor and battery to lug around and you can use tripod heads like the new 501HDV intended for lighter camcorders.
T


The flipped image won't absolve you from need of a monitor. The HV20 flip out LCD is to tiny to allow you to focus decently, something that is doubly important on the 35mm adapter set up.... I can tell you that from experience !

[peterfromcanberra]

I just ordered the Letus Mini for Nikon lenses and hoping to get it withing the next 2 weeks (I am sitting in Australia, so might take a bit longer)
I will take some photos and will keep you updated how thing are going with this new filmmaker's toy.

From my research it quite seems to be the best solution for the HV20 on the market yet but of course I have to wait until I actually hold it in my hands.

I will also test it togehter with Calicocam Steadycam and with/ without rod system, mattebox.

Peter

[sonu2c]

peterfromcanberra hope you post some footage with it too so get the idea how it looks. let us know what knda experince you have with it

[Tõnis]

C, the whole external monitor issue might be due most videographers used to infinite DOF and so on.
I have serious photography background and when the little dark viewfinders appeared on affordable DSLRs I got used to it.
I`ve shot more with 35mm DOF adapters than I have otherways I just never liked that infinite sharpness. I`ve shot days worth of material with non flipped adapter, hand held, walking on volcanic rock and still got decent results - no external monitor. Most of the time I just used to check the distance scale on the lens, the same eye looking at the on-board monitor and the other looking for subjects not jet in frame. But then again I didn`t use 85mm f1.2 there wide open. Remember, even at f4 you got decent DOF with 35mm lens and when there`s plenty of light it`s ideal to use. Even in real 35mm world no DP would exclusively use wide open apertures for all the shots and focus pulling goes by the marks not by the HD monitor.

By the wider frame than M2 I meant that M2 uses Academy frame width whereas Letus uses Vistavision sized frame. And as the Letus Mini is just a smaller Extreme that has plenty of good sample footage I think I can trust it`s qualities.

PS: I`m one of the first to get the Mini too, I`m based in Europe so I guess it`s gonna take about 10-14 days to get here.

Cheers,
T

[muroshi]

Well if I haven't just spent my money on a SGpro I probably would have bought the mini also. With a SGpro and their flip, I would end up with way more.

Their integrated design rocks. Instead the battery case of the SGpro is a bit poorly solved. But during that time SGpro has been quoted as the best adapter. I'm looking forward to see some images of the mini.

[mattias]

The flipped image won't absolve you from need of a monitor. The HV20 flip out LCD is to tiny to allow you to focus decently, something that is doubly important on the 35mm adapter set up.... I can tell you that from experience !
with all due respect i think you're telling us from your *lack* of experience. i pull focus professionally and very often i don't use a monitor at all, and often you get an ancient transvideo which hardly even tells the framing. and even if you can't use the lens markings and have to do it by eye the hv20 flip out is fine. to set the focus on a static shot you find the two points where the image go out of focus, easy even in low res actually, then set it in-between, and once subjects and camera start moving it's all gut feeling anyway, you can't possibly pull focus live using the monitor no matter how high res.

/matt

[mattias]

By the wider frame than M2 I meant that M2 uses Academy frame width whereas Letus uses Vistavision sized frame.

so the m2 doesn't even use the super 35 width then? vistavision is the same as 24x36, right, the still format?

/matt

[DeGrey]

Well if I haven't just spent my money on a SGpro I probably would have bought the mini also. With a SGpro and their flip, I would end up with way more.

The SGPros is a nice adapter. Guess who makes the flip module for them ;)

The Letus35 Mini is geared toward the users who want a simple "plug-and-play" type adapter that is easy to setup and use. Everyone will have different needs so to say the Mini is the perfect adapter isn't possible. It will work great for some and maybe not as well for others. It really depends on your needs. I plan on using the Mini / HV20 combo for when I travel. It keeps me from having to lug around all sorts of extra equipment. I still have the ability to use a 35mm lens on my cam which is great because it's hard to go back to a plain camera after you get the hang of the 35mm workflow.

[muroshi]

Haha, I know that you make it mate. You really should have announced the mini two months earlier. :(

[RockyRoad2929]

um, did you think i was suggesting that they didn't? i'm a little insulted. :-) there are plenty of things you can buy at almost the same price or even lower than it would cost to build it yourself. that's why we have industrial production.

/matt

My bad...I wasn't trying to insult you in anyway...I was merely saying that I think the price is a tad pricey. Sure, you can argue to you're blue in the face; that the Brevis is great and the Redrock M2 is good too but all I was saying that I WISH that companies or indivduals who made these products would take inaccount that most HV20 users aren't rich or have money to afford these adaptors and want so much to find a good product like our trusty HV20 (great images of 24p for $800) Finally, 24p for the masses, so they can shoot just like the pros like our favorite movies or images in past or present films.

Sure, those prices are great if you compare those to the Mini35 that basically $7,000.00. I just wish someone here would make & sell a vibrating adaptor to the masses like ourselves...so we can shine just like the pros.

My two cents.

P.S. Mattias, I like your videos & shorts. Keep up the good work. Love to see creative work like yours. Good job!!!

[mattias]

well, there used to be a $500 non flipping letus, but i'm assuming it was discontinued because everyone wants the flip. if you can afford the camera you can afford the adapter. i promise. if you think you can't afford it it's because you don't need it. :-) a lot of people here probably paid over $1000 for their cameras just months ago, and you'll be spending $500 on lenses too, so why not spend another five and get a great adapter with flip?

thanks for the comments on my work. i appreciate it.

/matt

[CBarce]

with all due respect i think you're telling us from your *lack* of experience. i pull focus professionally and very often i don't use a monitor at all, and often you get an ancient transvideo which hardly even tells the framing. and even if you can't use the lens markings and have to do it by eye the hv20 flip out is fine. to set the focus on a static shot you find the two points where the image go out of focus, easy even in low res actually, then set it in-between, and once subjects and camera start moving it's all gut feeling anyway, you can't possibly pull focus live using the monitor no matter how high res.

/matt

I amend my statement: I did not mean to infer when I mention my experience, that I pulled focus for a living. I do this as a hobby, using a Letus 35a, and an SD monitor to try to get a decent result. So if you are a common dude like me, and you want to be sure you maintain decent focus, then you will likely want a bigger monitor to shoot with to be sure you are on. If you are stud focus puller like Mattias, then you won't need it-- but then if you were such a stud professional focus puller, why would you be shooting with a HV20....

[muroshi]

Looks very good, we love Swedish films in Switzerland. What did you use to light the second short (Jag bara undrar)?

[mattias]

I amend my statement: I did not mean to infer when I mention my experience, that I pulled focus for a living. I do this as a hobby, using a Letus 35a, and an SD monitor to try to get a decent result. So if you are a common dude like me, and you want to be sure you maintain decent focus, then you will likely want a bigger monitor to shoot with to be sure you are on.
or you can learn to trust the lens markings and your instincts, which will save you money as well as make you a much better focus puller. :-) i'm not telling you that i'm a professional focus puller to belittle you, it's so you can learn something from me, obviously.


but then if you were such a stud professional focus puller, why would you be shooting with a HV20....
pulling focus is my day job, and to a degree so are the gigs i do as a dp, it's just where i came from. my real work is as an independent producer and director.

/matt

[mattias]

Looks very good, we love Swedish films in Switzerland. What did you use to light the second short (Jag bara undrar)?
thanks, i didn't shoot it myself but i believe we used 4k hmi's and 800 jokers in lanterns for the basic setup, and kinoflos for fill and shape in closer shots.

/matt

[CBarce]

or you can learn to trust the lens markings and your instincts, which will save you money as well as make you a much better focus puller. :-) i'm not telling you that i'm a professional focus puller to belittle you, it's so you can learn something from me, obviously.


pulling focus is my day job, and to a degree so are the gigs i do as a dp, it's just where i came from. my real work is as an independent producer and director.

/matt

I do trust my instincts and have had to using the small LCD in the past, but it is a bit of bad feeling to get all your film in the can, and not be sure your focus is spot on, until after the fact.

The trouble with lens markings is with these adapters, you cannot be sure that the focal plane (ground glass) is exactly where it should be. So if the ground glass is off a couple milimeters, your lens marking can be off significantly. This can occur because of the lens mount provide by Letus, because of the particular lens, or because of the way that the ground glass is set up. I have a self built spinning adapter, too, that requires I consider this issue.

It sounds like the Letus Extreme/Mini35 versions are dialed in better and with closer tolerances, and that may not be a problem, but you should not depend on that alone.

[mattias]

point taken. you need to be able to trust your lens markings, that's for sure. i assumed the flange distance was adjustable on the letus? and if it isn't surely it can't be "a couple mms" off? i've only used diy adapters and the p+s ones and i've always been able to trust the markings...

/matt

[24Peter]

So... back to my question... is there only 1/2 stop loss with the Extreme mini as well? :hv20-smilie51:

[Mal]

I'm not seeing familiar names regarding the LetUs; is Quyen still part of the LetUs company?

[CBarce]

I'm not seeing familiar names regarding the LetUs; is Quyen still part of the LetUs company?

I'm guessing Quyen is in development and manufacture, and that he paired up with a marketing company to push the Letus. Probably needed to do that to move to a more finished product. Prices have really gone up, in terms of per unit cost, but it seems like quality has kept pace.

[Tõnis]

So... back to my question... is there only 1/2 stop loss with the Extreme mini as well? :hv20-smilie51:
I believe it is still half a stop loss with the kitten-kind-of-letus. But HV20 isn`t as light savvy as the EX1 in the other hand...
I still don`t quite imagine that if you can get 3 actors for example how couldn`t you get the lights after all?
...if the wobbling issue won`t come up with the HV you would be able to pull off a Bad Boy Bubby style of drama easily with some lights as used to be used on real film sets you know but after all it`s more in the mind that in the tech, I turned off some "world class tech" to free my mind.

And greetings from Estonia Mattias!
T

[ESTEBEVERDE]

I think it's ok but wayyyyyyyy to expensive.

[sonu2c]

it is too expensive might as well spend $200 more and get the Letus Extreme that you can use later on if you plan to upgrade your camera later on

[africanmarty]

i wonder what afircanmartys response to this is going to be

truth be told if i hadent bought the flip enhanced i would but this in an instant !! looks great, less weight and by stats better made for the hv20, but i'm still very happy with my letus 35 flip enhanced. Though i do think its a bit pricey IMO.

[mattias]

it is too expensive might as well spend $200 more and get the Letus Extreme that you can use later on if you plan to upgrade your camera later on
why does something smaller have to be something inferior? i mean you'd gladly spend another $100 to get the smallest cell phone there is, right? same thing. have you looked at the difference is size and weight? it's more than significant.

/matt

[DeGrey]

I'm not seeing familiar names regarding the LetUs; is Quyen still part of the LetUs company?

Yes, Quyen is still the mastermind behind everything. He and his brother Hien handle the design, testing, and manufacturing. LetusDirect.com handles order fulfillment and customer support so Quyen can focus on the production side of things.

The Mini and the Extreme share the same internals so they spec out the same. Actually, the Mini has slightly less light loss as the optical path is shorter due to the smaller size. It's a cool little adapter. I'll be using it a LOT while traveling that's for sure! Super mobile 35mm ;)

[Tõnis]

I`ll be testing the Letus Mini and HV20 combo extensively on our expedition to Catalan Pyrenees in three weeks, tell me where the weight matters, no additional $900 wouldn`t save me that weight with the Extreme.

As I see it almost everyone of the crowd now getting 35mm dof adapters will use it for personal or at least not fully funded projects so why bother with heavier and bulkier equipment that will be left home because of that.
Sure it`s kind of niche product but I assume bigger professional camcorders are too - it`s about tools for the job.
HV20 is the perfect cam to camouflage it as a camera head, I`ll give you couple of pics next week.

Cheers,
T

[ESTEBEVERDE]

it is too expensive might as well spend $200 more and get the Letus Extreme that you can use later on if you plan to upgrade your camera later on

Exactly! :hv20-smilie70:

[ESTEBEVERDE]

why does something smaller have to be something inferior? i mean you'd gladly spend another $100 to get the smallest cell phone there is, right? same thing. have you looked at the difference is size and weight? it's more than significant.

/matt

Not sure your logic holds on this one.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

I`ll be testing the Letus Mini and HV20 combo extensively on our expedition to Catalan Pyrenees in three weeks, tell me where the weight matters, no additional $900 wouldn`t save me that weight with the Extreme.

As I see it almost everyone of the crowd now getting 35mm dof adapters will use it for personal or at least not fully funded projects so why bother with heavier and bulkier equipment that will be left home because of that.
Sure it`s kind of niche product but I assume bigger professional camcorders are too - it`s about tools for the job.
HV20 is the perfect cam to camouflage it as a camera head, I`ll give you couple of pics next week.

Cheers,
T


It would make a difference if you move up to the bigger cameras.

If you are going to stick with HV20 size and the performance satisfies you then there you go. :hv20-smilie70:

[mattias]

Not sure your logic holds on this one.
ok, care to explain in what way, or are you just trolling? the fact that this adapter is small is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. i wouldn't have been surprised if it had been more expensive than the regular one, though thankful it's not. i'm 100% positive this adapter was designed to be smaller, not cheaper per se. for somebody who wants a small adapter spending another $200 for something bigger sounds extremely stupid.

/matt

[Tõnis]

It would make a difference if you move up to the bigger cameras.

If you are going to stick with HV20 size and the performance satisfies you then there you go. :hv20-smilie70:

I`m just downgrading from higher end camcorders like HVX and XHA1, considering olschool DigiBetas not being at all high end any more, actually not downgrading but just using the HV20 as lightweight cam with the best possible image quality to weight ratio. And I still think that the single chip design is superior on HV when compared to A1 in terms of optical image quality, I´ve done too much pixel peeping over the years even at the full frame Canon 13mp sensor with 85mm f1.2 lens.

Cheerios,
T

[CJDaniels]

ok, care to explain in what way, or are you just trolling? the fact that this adapter is small is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. i wouldn't have been surprised if it had been more expensive than the regular one, though thankful it's not. i'm 100% positive this adapter was designed to be smaller, not cheaper per se. for somebody who wants a small adapter spending another $200 for something bigger sounds extremely stupid.

/matt

not if there is a possibility of you getting a bigger camera in the future. I understand the logic.

[mattias]

i'm not saying that his logic is wrong, i'm defending my own. i'm not quite sure why though because i'm obviously dealing with either a troll or someone who can't even drink legally yet, or possibly someone whose mother was drinking a lot the months before he was born. :-)

/matt

[ESTEBEVERDE]

ok, care to explain in what way, or are you just trolling? the fact that this adapter is small is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. i wouldn't have been surprised if it had been more expensive than the regular one, though thankful it's not. i'm 100% positive this adapter was designed to be smaller, not cheaper per se. for somebody who wants a small adapter spending another $200 for something bigger sounds extremely stupid.

/matt

Hey mattias, not trolling. If I were you would have no doubt. :hv20-smilie77:

But I am simply suggesting that your logic on the miniaturization of electronics does not necessarily hold for optics and that if you are planning on moving to a larger camera the smaller unit might not serve you as well.

[ESTEBEVERDE]

i'm not saying that his logic is wrong, i'm defending my own. i'm not quite sure why though because i'm obviously dealing with either a troll or someone who can't even drink legally yet, or possibly someone whose mother was drinking a lot the months before he was born. :-)

/matt


Wow... really?

No body started sh1t with you.

Just a difference of opinion.

If you can't handle divergent opinions then don't expose your tender short fused ego to a discussion board.

If your mini letus works great for you then that is fantastic.

Really. No Joke.

And that is all that should matter.

But, for others, if they are thinking of moving up to better cameras they might be better served by buying the larger Letus EX.

By the way... did you ever look at the lens sizes of the better cameras out there.

Did you notice the lenses are much bigger?

Have you given a bit of thought as to why?

That's why I was saying I didn't think your logic held in this particular case.

[24Peter]

I´ve done too much pixel peeping over the years even at the full frame Canon 13mp sensor with 85mm f1.2 lens.

Cheerios,
T

Boy I can relate to that! You must be talking about the 5D. And that's some nice glass! I recently picked up a 40D and am thrilled at my pixel peeps with the 85 1.8.

[Ivan Fuentes]

hi! is there any more info being published about the mini anytime soon? website still displays only the mini's selling page, but i'd love to see it in the comparison chart. i'm from Chile and i have just bought an HV20 (which should be in my anxious hands this tuesday), and i really want to buy the best available DOF adapter asap.

i'd really like to know main differences beween extreme and mini... besides just the size. there HAS to be something else, or isn't it? i've read this post + letus direct's forum, but i still feel i need some more info



update: So I'm almost decided for the Letus Mini, been reading, comparing... right at this link (https://www.adapterplace.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,43/category_id,11/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,56/) it says "The optional custom bracket is available and will be included for any one who purchases the unit by Christmas " Is this correct? And if so, forgive my english, this means "until xmas"? (feeling really dumb here :hv20-smilie15:)

[DeGrey]

Yes, the support bracket is free with the Mini until Dec. 25th. We still have a few of Letus35 Minis on hand (http://www.letusdirect.com/cart/Letus35-Mini-p-21.html). After this batch is gone, there will be about a 2 week turn around on Mini orders like their is on Extreme orders.

There really isn't any difference between the Mini and Extreme other than size. They will produce the same image as they share the same internals.

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask here or over in the LetusDirect.com forum. I'm trying to stay caught up with the various forums around so if there is a delay in response, you can send a message using the contact form on LetusDirect.com. That is the fastest way to get a response.

[Ivan Fuentes]

ok, done! thanks

[ESTEBEVERDE]

Yes, the support bracket is free with the Mini until Dec. 25th. We still have a few of Letus35 Minis on hand (http://www.letusdirect.com/cart/Letus35-Mini-p-21.html). After this batch is gone, there will be about a 2 week turn around on Mini orders like their is on Extreme orders.

There really isn't any difference between the Mini and Extreme other than size. They will produce the same image as they share the same internals.

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask here or over in the LetusDirect.com forum. I'm trying to stay caught up with the various forums around so if there is a delay in response, you can send a message using the contact form on LetusDirect.com. That is the fastest way to get a response.

So the optics are the exact same just the casing is different?

If so, why would you just offer the mini and drop the extreme?

[Ivan Fuentes]

So the optics are the exact same just the casing is different?

If so, why would you just offer the mini and drop the extreme?

as far as i've read, Extrme fits cameras with 72, 77, and 82 mm filter thread diameter. Mini goes for 37 and 43mm filter thread diameter.

[CBarce]

as far as i've read, Extrme fits cameras with 72, 77, and 82 mm filter thread diameter. Mini goes for 37 and 43mm filter thread diameter.

Yes, this is true, but you can simply use a step down set up with the Extreme, 72 to 58, then 58 to 43. I've done it with the Letus35a. Question is can you go the other direction.

[wolferic]

Yes, this is true, but you can simply use a step down set up with the Extreme, 72 to 58, then 58 to 43. I've done it with the Letus35a. Question is can you go the other direction.

Sure you can. As long as you don't mind a huge black ring around your images. Using any kind of adapter that is designed for a 43mm front filter on a lens that is 72mm will cause major vignetting. Hence the need for two different models of adapter.

Also, I'm afraid your terminology is backwards: you are using STEP-UP rings to go from 43mm (the camera lens thread) to 72mm (the Extreme rear thread). STEP DOWN rings go the other way.

As a side note, I find it really interesting that this thread has already grown as large as it has, and I think this reflects the amount of interest there is in a product like this, a 'prosumer' after-market tool specifically designed for a consumer camera. I hope other manufacturers take note, and I am REALLY interested in hearing from someone who buys one of these things to see if it lives up to it's promise.

[brandonesquire]

So, I would like a 35mm adapter, and think the Mini is great, being how it was made FOR the HV20, but I plan on someday upgrading to a XH A1. Would it be work it to get the Extreme in the hopes that one day I would use it on a A1. What cons would there be for buying using the Extreme on the HV20? What else would I have to buy to get it to work WELL with the HV20?

[RockyRoad2929]

Would there be a X-mas special for us, HV20 users wanting this Mini adaptor like the Extreme?

I would love to stock my wife's stocking with a Mini Letus 35mm adaptor? She loves the small adaptor to stack in her Prada bag...but that's her!!!

Can you help her out???

Thanks.

[DeGrey]

So, I would like a 35mm adapter, and think the Mini is great, being how it was made FOR the HV20, but I plan on someday upgrading to a XH A1. Would it be work it to get the Extreme in the hopes that one day I would use it on a A1. What cons would there be for buying using the Extreme on the HV20? What else would I have to buy to get it to work WELL with the HV20?

Brandon,
The Extreme will work great with the HV20 as well. Many of our users have this already setup. All you need to do is use step rings to match up the threads. I believe Raynox makes a 72mm -> 43mm step ring but you can also stack multiple rings if need be. Adding step rings won't have any negative effects on the image.

The HV20 is light enough that you could hand hold the Extreme and let the camera hang of the back. If you want to mount the setup to a tripod, you would want to use support rods (which we will soon be releasing) as you don't want the weight of the Extreme hanging on the front threads of the HV20.

Rocky,
Your wife may be interested in the new Prada branded Mini. It will of course cost 10 times as much but money is no object right? ;)

[RockyRoad2929]

Hi DeGrey,

Sorry, I forgot to mention that she has the fake Prada bag...the one you buy in NY city in the Garment district.

I did mention the Mini to her in great detail and admiration...but since she's a very sarvy shopper & she believes in a discounts. Hey...its not me.

She's just asking like many user's wives here on this forum.

Cheers...

[Bodrochowski]

I'm planning on buying the letus for an HVR-A1E, and I was wondering - it was said that it's best to buy the Extreme so that if you upgrade it'll still be compatible - but how would you use the Extreme with a camera with a 37mm thread?

[Reeven]

I have a few questions. That Canon FD 50mm 1.4 lens, would I need any adapters to attach that to the Letus Mini, or is it the right size to just fit right on there? Also, if I were to put my HV20, Letus Mini and lens on a tripod, would I need support rods? If so, do you sell the neccesary support rods? And finally, would it be possible to have on a Letus Mini, 50mm lens and a zoom lens at the same time? I assume I'd need support rods for all of that.

EDIT: I forgot to ask, is this a vibrating adapter?

[silosr]

When you order the Letus Mini, you need to specify mount. So if you say Canon FD, then your FD lens will mount right on it. You can also buy different mounts if you have other types of lenses.

With the adapter at the end of the hv20 and a 50mm lens attached, putting the hv20 on a tripod is in my opinion borderline pushing it. Hand held, you can hold it at the adapter. If you plan on using longer lenses at some point, support rod, I recommend.

Yes, Letus sells support rod system. If you want cheaper, get a cavision support system,

You want to put a 50 then attach a zoom on the 50??? I question the quality.
If you want more than 50, you should invest in a telephoto lens. But in the end, if that's what you want to do, it will work. again, you will be front heavy and those hv20 plastic threads and the build of the hv20 makes it scary.

Yes, it is a vibrating adapter using 2 aa batteries.

Ronnie
www.vimeo.com/ronniesilos


I have a few questions. That Canon FD 50mm 1.4 lens, would I need any adapters to attach that to the Letus Mini, or is it the right size to just fit right on there? Also, if I were to put my HV20, Letus Mini and lens on a tripod, would I need support rods? If so, do you sell the neccesary support rods? And finally, would it be possible to have on a Letus Mini, 50mm lens and a zoom lens at the same time? I assume I'd need support rods for all of that.

EDIT: I forgot to ask, is this a vibrating adapter?

[Reeven]

When you order the Letus Mini, you need to specify mount. So if you say Canon FD, then your FD lens will mount right on it. You can also buy different mounts if you have other types of lenses.

With the adapter at the end of the hv20 and a 50mm lens attached, putting the hv20 on a tripod is in my opinion borderline pushing it. Hand held, you can hold it at the adapter. If you plan on using longer lenses at some point, support rod, I recommend.

Yes, Letus sells support rod system. If you want cheaper, get a cavision support system,

You want to put a 50 then attach a zoom on the 50??? I question the quality.
If you want more than 50, you should invest in a telephoto lens. But in the end, if that's what you want to do, it will work. again, you will be front heavy and those hv20 plastic threads and the build of the hv20 makes it scary.

Yes, it is a vibrating adapter using 2 aa batteries.

Ronnie
www.vimeo.com/ronniesilos


Yeah, I was worried about how the quality of a zoom added on would be. I'm new to this 35mm adapter world.

On letusdirect.com, under the rod support option on the Letus Mini page, there are several options, some being pricier than others. What are the differences between them, and do any have a distinct advantage over ones like the Canivision? Also, I assume I wouldn't need to worry about the additional thread size option.

EDIT: Also, how does the rod system attach to a tripod? Would I have to buy a new head for the tripod? Sorry for all the questions, but I've never even seen a rod support system in person, so I know nothing about them.

[silosr]

For the rod support options:

If you go with a different brand like Cavision, at the least you will need the
first item on the list (Rods Support Bracket) for $49 dollars. The other 4 options already come with this support bracket and is just a matter of length configurations. The first 2 are fixed lengths and the last 2 options have extenders on them so you can configure as needed.

These rod support systems have a base with standard threaded holes in them that can readily attach to your tripod or quick release just like the threaded holes you have at the bottom of your camera.

As far as the Letus rod support system, it is very well made and looks great and comes complete. I use the Cavision one because it is also built well and looks good too for a substantial discount - although as I said, you still will need to buy the support bracket from Letus.

Ronnie
Pictures of my Mini with Cavision rod support
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=10402



Yeah, I was worried about how the quality of a zoom added on would be. I'm new to this 35mm adapter world.

On letusdirect.com, under the rod support option on the Letus Mini page, there are several options, some being pricier than others. What are the differences between them, and do any have a distinct advantage over ones like the Canivision? Also, I assume I wouldn't need to worry about the additional thread size option.

EDIT: Also, how does the rod system attach to a tripod? Would I have to buy a new head for the tripod? Sorry for all the questions, but I've never even seen a rod support system in person, so I know nothing about them.

[Reeven]

For the rod support options:

If you go with a different brand like Cavision, at the least you will need the
first item on the list (Rods Support Bracket) for $49 dollars. The other 4 options already come with this support bracket and is just a matter of length configurations. The first 2 are fixed lengths and the last 2 options have extenders on them so you can configure as needed.

These rod support systems have a base with standard threaded holes in them that can readily attach to your tripod or quick release just like the threaded holes you have at the bottom of your camera.

As far as the Letus rod support system, it is very well made and looks great and comes complete. I use the Cavision one because it is also built well and looks good too for a substantial discount - although as I said, you still will need to buy the support bracket from Letus.

Ronnie
Pictures of my Mini with Cavision rod support
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=10402

At the time of purchase I'd probably only be using the Letus Mini and a Canon FD 50mm 1.4 lens. What size should I get to support that, but also leave room for possible expansion?

[Braceface]

The Letus Mini is wonderful. It's the best investment I've made.

[Braceface]

Oh, and I know that if I get a bigger camera I'll need the extreme, or ultimate, but for the HV20 the Letus Mini is THE perfect match. It's very light so it doesn't stress the threads, but at the same time it's built like a TANK,. The thing is 100% BAD ASS!!, If you want a really well designed adaptor that isn't frail, and really seals the gg, plus flips the image properly, plus is safe for your precious threads, then it BE wise to get the Letus mini FOR the HV20, and the Extreme for a bigger camera. I still use a support system, but even the supports that I use are streamlined for run and gun. No monitor needed ( for me ), and no headache of turning the image over in post. UGH. How wonderful is the Mini !!!!

[Ian Lim]

Enough... Braceface...enough... I have just ordered the Mini! :hv20-smilie70:

[Reeven]

Oh, and I know that if I get a bigger camera I'll need the extreme, or ultimate, but for the HV20 the Letus Mini is THE perfect match. It's very light so it doesn't stress the threads, but at the same time it's built like a TANK,. The thing is 100% BAD ASS!!, If you want a really well designed adaptor that isn't frail, and really seals the gg, plus flips the image properly, plus is safe for your precious threads, then it BE wise to get the Letus mini FOR the HV20, and the Extreme for a bigger camera. I still use a support system, but even the supports that I use are streamlined for run and gun. No monitor needed ( for me ), and no headache of turning the image over in post. UGH. How wonderful is the Mini !!!!

It's going to take me forever to save enough, but I cannot wait to get this adapter.

[Reeven]

At the time of purchase I'd probably only be using the Letus Mini and a Canon FD 50mm 1.4 lens. What size should I get to support that, but also leave room for possible expansion?

Just don't want to let this get pushed back, as I'm trying to get an idea of how much this'll all cost me.

[newbievidguy]

Oh, and I know that if I get a bigger camera I'll need the extreme, or ultimate, but for the HV20 the Letus Mini is THE perfect match. It's very light so it doesn't stress the threads, but at the same time it's built like a TANK,. The thing is 100% BAD ASS!!, If you want a really well designed adaptor that isn't frail, and really seals the gg, plus flips the image properly, plus is safe for your precious threads, then it BE wise to get the Letus mini FOR the HV20, and the Extreme for a bigger camera. I still use a support system, but even the supports that I use are streamlined for run and gun. No monitor needed ( for me ), and no headache of turning the image over in post. UGH. How wonderful is the Mini !!!!
You should get a commision everytime they sell a letus ..lol I just bought mine today and I am looking for a support system, what are you using for yours and do you have pics of your setup you can post? thanks

[silosr]

Reeven, I would just get the shortest one. It will keep it nice and compact. You can always get the extensions or get longer rods later. Thats just my humble opinion.

Newbievidguy, I've talked about what rods I use (Cavision) in some threads if that's helpful. FYI, I also have pictures in this thread:
Pictures of my Mini with Cavision rod support

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=10402

Ronnie

[Braceface]

You should get a commision everytime they sell a letus ..lol I just bought mine today and I am looking for a support system, what are you using for yours and do you have pics of your setup you can post? thanks
I don't know how to post pics?:hv20-smilie51: on this forum.
But anyway, I didn't take the path most choose to take with support rails. I built mine on a mono support. I made it out of wood. I used a furring strip and cut it into 2 pieces. One piece ( the bottom ) is about 13 inches.
The top piece is about 6 inches ( approx. ) In between the top and bottom piec is a very thin piece of wood that is also about 6 inches.
The 6 inch pieces are drilled through the 13 inch pieces at one end of the 13 inch piece. Then they are bolted together flush. This is the exact height I need for the Letus Mini to be secured flat to the base (13 inch ) piece while screwed onto the HV0 that sits firmly on the top piece ( 6 inch ). A 1/4 inch bolt and wing nut go through a drilled hole through the 13 inch and 6 inch piece where it screws into the camera and is rubber gasket mounted so I can snugly tighten the camera on it with no play, yet no over threading.
The adaptor ( once in place and screwed to the camera ) is secured to the 13 inch piece with a metal cuff ( the kind that plumbers use that tighten with a flathead , I don't remember the exact name ) I secure it with just enough play that I can still fine tune the allignment of the adaptor back and forth slightly all of the time. It is still firm, yet can be budged with very little force. I don't screw the adaptor onto the camera tight. Just snug. This leaves more tweaking room, but still stays very firm. Just a little wiggle room. Through the bottom piece of wood ( 13 inch ) in between the Adaptor and the camera, I drilled a hole up through the wood and anchored an 1/4 inch metal female plate. That allows any tripod base to be used with it.
The wood support comes out to be narrower than the camera, yet sits stable by it's self on a surface. On a tripod it mounts very secure and free of wobble. Because it is so narrow, it is very streamlined for run and gun.
The camera and adaptor are fabulously secure and the camera threads recieve zero stress.
I don't plan on hooking up a monitor to the camera, and never did. I will not compromise the comfort of hand held when needed. I can however still attatch all accessories ( like a mattbox etc..)to the support if I want. It would take very little creativity. BUT, I will always keep my rig light.
I've used field monitors, but I wont run around with a monitor attatched to the camera. It's to cumbersome. I however do plan on a nice microphone that attatches to the hot shoe, although 99 percent of the time I use laveliers, and booms.
But I really love my rig. It works great, and it actually looks really proffesional. The wood is minimal, black, and not bizarre looking like some of the concoctions I've seen with the HV20 rigs. All due respect....

[Braceface]

:By the way, I do like rail systems. They ARE nice. I want one too someday, but they are a little harder to hold without a shoulder rest, than what I've got going. It actually works just as well as rails ( considering that I don't attach a lot of Xtras ). But no disrespect to rails. They are sweet. I just don't understand the real bulky rigs with a ton of Xtras.
At least not for hand held. I'm probably very wrong though, and it wouldn't be the first or last time I insert foot in mouth.:)

[Reeven]

Reeven, I would just get the shortest one. It will keep it nice and compact. You can always get the extensions or get longer rods later. Thats just my humble opinion.

Newbievidguy, I've talked about what rods I use (Cavision) in some threads if that's helpful. FYI, I also have pictures in this thread:
Pictures of my Mini with Cavision rod support

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=10402

Ronnie

So just those 30mm ones, not the 45mm ones?

[silosr]

So just those 30mm ones, not the 45mm ones?

Hi Reeven,

Just to clarify - it's cm (centemeter) not mm (millimeter)
So the 30CM is about a foot and the 45 cm is about a foot and 1/2

I am perfectly happy with my compact setup which is closer to the 30cm. This has enough room to support the HV20, the Letus Mini and even to support the lens but no need to do that.

Ronnie

[Reeven]

Hi Reeven,

Just to clarify - it's cm (centemeter) not mm (millimeter)
So the 30CM is about a foot and the 45 cm is about a foot and 1/2

I am perfectly happy with my compact setup which is closer to the 30cm. This has enough room to support the HV20, the Letus Mini and even to support the lens but no need to do that.

Ronnie

My bad. Sounds cool, thanks!

[alikapadia]

I need to get a 35mm adapter and not so happy about the part that i wont be able to use this adapter when i am able to upgrade my camera, its an expensive adapter, so the limitation is more striking for me.

Has anyone put togather a 35mm comparison video of Letus Mini and other dof adapters?

[alemandarino]

I need to get a 35mm adapter and not so happy about the part that i wont be able to use this adapter when i am able to upgrade my camera, its an expensive adapter, so the limitation is more striking for me.

Has anyone put togather a 35mm comparison video of Letus Mini and other dof adapters?

I don't think that the letus is the best option for those on a budget... You have great adapters less expensive and with great performance even better than the letus... And others that are developing new ones like the Meka35 which seems really promissing and less expensive...

But I haven't see a direct comparison between a Letus and other DOF...

[diegobaz]

I'm sorry to ask if this topic's been covered already, but I've been searching this site & the rest of the Web for over a week now - I can't seem to find a straight answer! My question is: will a zoom lens (e.g. TAMRON Aspherical 28-200mm f3.8-5.6) work with a Letus Mini on an HV30?

Also, assuming you CAN use a zoom lens on the Letus Mini: can you zoom during a shot (à la Jess Franco), or would you only be able to set different focal lengths between shots & shoot that way (like, @ 28mm, 35mm, 70mm, etc.)?

Thanking anyone/everyone in advance...

[morteym]

From what I've been reading I don't think that lense will be very good for an adapter.
You want a fast (low fstop number) fixed focal length lense.
I.e 50mm f/1.8 or f/1.4 or f/2.8. This is especially important when the light condition
isn't optimal. You will have light loss in the adapter and the lense, that's why you
want a fast lense. Zoom lenses often have high fstop numbers. Problem with zooming
while you're filming is focusing at the same time and light loss.

Image quality and sharpness is usually better with fixed lenses too.

I have seen zoom lenses on adapters but don't know if the result was good.
Maybe it can be used as an effect?

[diegobaz]

Thanks for the reply, morteym.

I'm not worried that much about light loss - I just want to know if you can shoot at different focal lengths with the Mini if you're using a zoom lens. Plus, I'm going for a "grindhouse-type" look so slightly degraded image quality isn't that big a deal. I'm more concerned about functionality re: a zoom lens on a Mini.

Btw, where in Norway are you? I have a friend who lives in Kongsberg.

Thanks again.