Panasonic AG-AF101

[Crosby!]

http://blog.panasonic-broadcast.com/wp-content/uploads//gal6-250x187.jpg

http://blog.panasonic-broadcast.com/ibc-product-highlights/ag-af101/

[Daniel Rutter]

What would you expect the price to be at?

[Crosby!]

I read $5,000 without a lens.

[Crosby!]

My bad, the AF101 and the AF100 are the same camera. The AF100 is the U.S. model.

http://urbanfoxtv.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-panasonic-af100af101.html

[Daniel Rutter]

5 grand? Heh... I'll stick to the HV, and buy a DSLR thanks...

[Crosby!]

Jump to the bottom this thread (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?38538-Panasonic-AG-AF100-is-online) for more info. Sounds darn awesome.

[oneearth]

quick video of a fully working unit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzQuMYJbWQY

[Crosby!]

A PDF version of the DV Expo presentation is available here (http://www.mediafire.com/?2j3qiaa7gcu7snp).

[Crosby!]

Pre-orders for $4795 TapeWorks Texas (http://tapeworkstexas.com/panasonic_ag_af100_micro_four_thirds_cinecam_cinem a_camcorder_.html).
Disclaimer: I have zero affiliation or anything else to do with them. Never dealt with them...yadda yadda. Just saw it and am posting the info.

[Crosby!]

Info, photos, video, speculation...here... (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=224660)

[Ian-T]

Seeing that the Scarlet just upped its base price $1,000 more I think this camera might be in my arsenal in the distant future. $4,995 is the list price. That's already much lower than the Sony EX cameras...and it has a suer large sensor to boot. Judging from what the GH13 can currently do I expect the image to be much better than the EX series also. This camera and my GH13 will make a lovely couple.

[Crosby!]

Speaking of Scarlet, a friend just sent me. Read the text under the audio file before playing: "Where's My Camera Jim? (http://soundcloud.com/philip-laforet/wheres-my-camera-jim)"

[dcloud]

im getting one by the time they release it

[Crosby!]

im getting one by the time they release it

A Scarlet, AF100, or both? In either case, do you have room at your place for me, too? I can learn Tagalog. :hv20-smilie03:

[dcloud]

the AF100 :P
i wont get the 2/3" scarlet.
maybe by 2012 and ill have enough money for a scarlet s35 version :D
heheh nah.

[Crosby!]

By 2012 you'll only have a few more years for the Scarlet to materialize. :hv20-smilie79:

Some of the people on the Scarlet forum on reduser.net (http://reduser.net/forum/index.php) are talking of getting GH2's (http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=50315) and AF100's (http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=50284) while they wait.

I'll use the GH2's and other cams I have while keeping an eye on the AF100. Being able to use the same lenses with the GH2 makes the AF100 very enticing to me.

[Ian-T]

What'ya mean...the world's suppose to end by 2012. :)

[Crosby!]

Only if you're Mayan. And, like roaches, the Scarlet will live on! :hv20-smilie79:

[Dr. Benway]

I'm going with this puppy.

http://dyn-images2.hsni.com/is/image/HomeShoppingNetwork/pd300/hoover-platinum-collection-cordless-handheld-vacuum-with-lithium-ion-battery-and-charger~377989.jpg

[Crosby!]

Jan Crittenden Livingston, Panasonic product manager of the AF100, talks to Dan Chung of dslrnewsshooter.com about the upcoming AG-AF100 Micro 4/3 HD camcorder.


http://vimeo.com/15474675

[Ian-T]

Way to keep us up to speed Crosby, May I dare assume that this camera will be a part of your arsenal in the upcoming year?

[Crosby!]

Way to keep us up to speed Crosby, May I dare assume that this camera will be a part of your arsenal in the upcoming year?

Probably not, I just like seeing the new toys...er...tools. Two GH2's will serve my needs nicely. Unless things take a different turn.

[steve]

Does the GH2 have the aliasing issues she was talking about?

[dcloud]

all dslrs do.

[Crosby!]

Panasonic AG AF-100 01/02 evaluation footage by CREWS.TV


http://vimeo.com/15765280

Full report: http://crews.tv/

Tech Feed: http://www.facebook.com/pages/CREWSTV/108160675896487

[zagnut]

I'm going with this puppy.

http://dyn-images2.hsni.com/is/image/HomeShoppingNetwork/pd300/hoover-platinum-collection-cordless-handheld-vacuum-with-lithium-ion-battery-and-charger~377989.jpg

No doubt. Doesn't look much different. That picture in the first post looks, well, underwhelming. Sounds like a great camera, but looks hilarious with that little lens.
I'm still trying to find a way to fund an HMC150.

[Dr. Benway]

Panasonic AG AF-100 01/02 evaluation footage by CREWS.TV

Perverts - they need to learn how to test a camera - it shows us a little of the cameras capabilities, but too little.

[Gillvane]

Perverts - they need to learn how to test a camera - it shows us a little of the cameras capabilities, but too little.

It's very pretty footage. I want one.

[Noir]

Perverts - they need to learn how to test a camera - it shows us a little of the cameras capabilities, but too little.

It would be nice if one of these camera manufacturers hired a real filmmaker to make a real short film with an actual story. To me, that would be a lot more exciting than yet another "hot girl rolls around while I pull on my focus" video (of which there are no shortage on Vimeo).

[Dr. Benway]

For sure and to see the capabilities of a camera I'd be interested in a proper test - tripod, fixed aperture, run through the shutter speeds to show us exposure range and vice versa - fixed shutter speed and run through the apertures to show us exposure and DOF range. Run through the zoom range. ISO tests in bright light, medium, and dark scenes. Static imagery, medium paced and fast moving action. Slow, medium and fast panning across horizontal and vertical planes. Some of the most useful - say four or five - different colour/looks presets. Interior to exterior shots showing latitude. How does AWB deal with tungsten, fluoro and mixed lighting? That sort of jazz. Pretty model (although she looked pissed at times), but it was a lame test: an excuse for podgy camera nerds to spend time in the presence of a pretty woman.

[AJUK]

The more I see of this camera the more interesting it looks. Here's hoping Canon have something similar in the works, I don't want to give up on my Canon glass, and I don't like the thought of using a Canon to Panasonic adaptor.

The wide range of rame rates at 1080p is definitely somehting I'm craving! :)

[Dr. Benway]

I don't want to give up on my Canon glass...

Me too. Saving for a beast right now - see what the next 5D iteration brings.

[Duke]

At $4,795 you'll only have a body. Throw some lenses and a little kit together and its going to be in the same ball park as an EX1. Definitely more than a used EX1 and there won't be any used AF100s for awhile.

Jan said the aliasing issue was improved, not gone away. The prototype CREWS.TV tested stopped working at 32F. Hopefully they'll work on it, but we don't know yet.

The AF100 will have DOF control due to the bigger sensor, but absolutely no one has tested the resolution, aliasing, moire, color aberration, low light, etc. After the issues with the DSLRs I want to see test results before I put one penny down.

I want to see some pixel peeping and trumpet charts!:hv20-smilie77:

[Dr. Benway]

...but absolutely no one has tested the resolution, aliasing, moire, color aberration, low light, etc. After the issues with the DSLRs I want to see test results before I put one penny down...

Exactly. Filming a pretty model doesn't cut it.

[Crosby!]

3200 ISO test with Voigtlander 50 f1.1:


http://vimeo.com/16000333


Phillip Bloom 3 Days with the Panasonic AG- AF100 (http://philipbloom.net/2010/10/19/af100/).

[dcloud]

At $4,795 you'll only have a body. Throw some lenses and a little kit together and its going to be in the same ball park as an EX1. Definitely more than a used EX1 and there won't be any used AF100s for awhile.

Jan said the aliasing issue was improved, not gone away. The prototype CREWS.TV tested stopped working at 32F. Hopefully they'll work on it, but we don't know yet.

The AF100 will have DOF control due to the bigger sensor, but absolutely no one has tested the resolution, aliasing, moire, color aberration, low light, etc. After the issues with the DSLRs I want to see test results before I put one penny down.

I want to see some pixel peeping and trumpet charts!:hv20-smilie77:
except ex1 has fixed lens :P

i have full confidence panasonic will deliver as always :D

[Timbit]

What'ya mean...the world's suppose to end by 2012. :)
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/yahoocanada/101019/canada/end_of_the_earth_postponed

A little bit to think about now. ;)

[Duke]

except ex1 has fixed lens :P

i have full confidence panasonic will deliver as always :D

I don't doubt it will be a good camera. The initial images look good. What I want to see is if it will be a great camera. The EX1 having a fixed lens is almost a non-sequitur. Just buy an EX3 if you want to interchange lenses.

I would have said Canon delivers too, but in my mind the 5D and 7D didn't deliver the quality I expected. Too many gotchas.

On the AF100 we know its about a 2x crop factor so your nice 24mm wide angle lens is now a standard ~50mm.

I'm also worried about the aliasing and moire. Attached is a crop of a clip produced by Philip Bloom. Looks like moire to me, but may be some other artifact. We need those tests. A few general shots don't tell us much.

[dcloud]

its too early to tell. but im guessing its a vimeo artifact. but based on the footages its very promising.

would love to get my hands on one of them prototypes. im actually pushing our local panasonic dealer to get one of the production models for review and testing in november... hope i get to play with one eary :)

my take on canon is that they're always late in the game. never innovating. they got lucky with the 5D mk II and the only thing theyve done right so far is add 24p to their cameras.. everything else is just milking cash from users.

Pnasonic broadcast has always innovated introducing 24p, solid state recording, avccam, avc intra, 3d camera, etc. etc. and they may not be the best but they certainly give products a bang for the buck.

Sony produces high quality and great products. albeit overpriced and always have a catch.. like proprietary products. also they tend to water down their products e.g. ax2000. pricier than an hmc150 and yet crippled & has less useful features.

EDIT: wait ill download the raw footage of the test. last time i checked it wasnt available

[Duke]

Yves posted some full sized, uncompressed captures. The following crops from those images show a weave type artifact in a couple of places on clothing in the still images:

(Click to see bigger versions)
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And a alias stepping along the book edge.
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On the plus side, the first resolution tests sound promising as they are being reported close to the EX1, but haven't been shown yet.

[Crosby!]

From DVuser UK:

http://www.dvuser.co.uk/images/img/reviews/camcorders/panasonic-ag-af101/nigel5.jpg

Panasonic AG-AF101 HD Camcorder - Full Review (http://www.dvuser.co.uk/content.php?CID=246)

[Duke]

Yep, that's where the resolution tests are described, but not shown.

[um3k]

That "alias stepping" on the book edge looks an awful lot like crappy deinterlacing. I'd like to take a look at the raw footage before making a judgment call.

[Duke]

The lossless images from CREWS.TV are here:

http://dylanreeve.com/download/AF100-Stills.zip

[dcloud]

its not that alarming as dslrs though :)

[Koppel]

The lossless images from CREWS.TV are here:

http://dylanreeve.com/download/AF100-Stills.zip
Brought a smile to my face... it really did. Straight out of camera looks like this :hv20-smilie03:

[Duke]

Its all a matter of degree, and at this point no one has seen real test results so we don't really know what degree. Every camera produces some artifacts.