FCE 4 Just out - support for 24p?

[Hallvalla]

I haven't found an answer yet...I'm not holding my breath either.

[Hallvalla]

Although, this blurb may be promising:

Open format Timeline
No need to worry about formats, frame rates, or conversions. Final Cut Express 4 provides an open format Timeline that handily accommodates DV (both NTSC and PAL) and HD footage simultaneously and in real time. Just drop video into the Timeline and edit away.

http://www.apple.com/finalcutexpress/#new

[neocastillo]

Does any one know if it does 1080 24p? I'm not talking about the pulldown removal just if it can edit 1080 24p footage. It say it can handle multiple frame rates, but does give the frame rates specifically.

[Hallvalla]

I'm eagerly awaiting this question to be answered as well.

[Eugenia Loli-Queru]

I can't see anything about 24p, but what really bothers me is that they seem to say that FCE can only do 1080i, not 1080p. I might call Apple and ask them.

[iodizedfate]

Macapper (http://macapper.com/2007/11/15/apple-releases-final-cut-express-4/) website thinks the Open Format Timeline is the same one as with Final Cut Studio (http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro/?movie=openformattimeline)

If it is then it should work the same and keep the video in the correct frame rate during editing but adjusting playback on the fly for reviewing your project. The FCP link explains it better but basically if it is the same environment then as far as i can tell it should be able to handle 24p....that is once the pulldown is removed.

[Eugenia Loli-Queru]

I JUST called FCE's tech support. The guy looked it up for me and he CONFIRMED that the new FCE does NOT support 24p and it does NOT support 1080p either.

So basically, nothing changed for HV20 users and FCE. This is sad IMO, I will blog about it.

Edit: blogged, if a bit angry at the whole deal: http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/11/15/final-cut-express-4/

[Hallvalla]

F*n bummer.

[harkangelproductions]

Ugh! Why can't Apple get us a lower-priced NLE program for 24fps?

It makes me want to stomp on a tomato!

[iodizedfate]

Just because it doesn't support a 24p timeline doesn't mean you can't edit in 24p. I'm telling you that Open Format Timeline is where its at. All the timeline thing means is you won't be able to save it as 23.98 fps. instead you would edit it as 24p but when you saves it would perform its own pulldown so it would fit into a 1080i60 or 720p30 packadge. As far as i know(and i could be TOTALLY wrong), no consumer grade TV's even support 24p natively so anything you play your movie through would convert it to 30p or 60i anyways. In fact the only reason you would want to save it as 24p is if you wanted it actually convert your digital footage to film....and thats kind of pricey.

[Eugenia Loli-Queru]

Sorry, but in this day and age people want to save in 24p for the web, not just for TVs. So exporting in 24p, as shot, as important.

More over, I don't believe that FCE is that intelligent that it will support 24p in the timeline but it will export in the right way afterwards. It's more possible that it will completely mess up the output, than the opposite.

[joe12south]

I'll probably pick this up soon and find out for sure. On another note, it appears the update to FCP released yesterday might support Canon's 24P mode natively.

[alatriste1]

I hope this helps:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306389

JC