General discussions

[1]

Let me first say a big THANKS to Shigeta who is doing a great job (on his own) moderating this forum.

However, I popped my head in here just now in hopes to check out some
of the current and previous entries, as I'm States-side right now and could actually
see VIMEO videos.
Well, after about 10 minutes of sifting through this forum I was able to watch BUSTED, and that's all.
Now, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed that movie, but I was VERY disappointed in how it looks in here.

Do you guys have some kind of system going?

Wouldn't it be better if there's, let's say, one thread, with all the VIMEO videos in it?
I can't -for the life on me- figure out where and how to watch any of the entries, past and present....
oh, and PLEASE don't send me away to a Vimeo page again...that is even more unorganized and confusing.

Let's hear some ideas about how to tidy things up.

1) Like I mentioned, maybe a thread with ALL the videos, past and present?
Or two separate ones, one past, one present?
2) One discussion thread
3) One (closed to anyone but moderator) thread with posted rules for each competition, opened up only for VOTING?

It's messy in here right now, and impossible to watch anything you guys have done in the past.

[1]

..also, why are there two different Antman contests with the number 4?

Also, is there a difference between an "Antman's Contest" and an "Antman's Quick&Dirty Short Contest"?

Also, where IS Antman????

[Daniel Rutter]

I suggested previously that we have a page that links us to all our previous entries, but it was ignored (big surprise there!). What we need, is a sticky which in which the first page is updated with all our entries every week, but locked so nobody can comment.

As for Antman... thats a good question. He's probably in the middle of trying to get his new feature film out there in the limelight.

[KingDucky]

Or two separate ones, one past, one present?
I think there should be:

One page with all the videos on it.
And for that current week all the entries are posted by Shig in one post. So like every time it's time for submissions the contestants will PM Shig a link to their video. Then He'll make a post in a particular thread with all the videos in it. Then the next contest He'll post thew new submissions in the same thread. Making it so people can view the current projects that will be voted on, but also the past ones to watch for their enjoyment in the same thread. And He'll just give a title to each post(see the title of my post as a en example.

Does that make sense?:hv20-smilie51:


2)One discussion thread
3) One (closed to anyone but moderator) thread with posted rules for each competition, opened up only for VOTING?

Yeah and then these. So there's 3 overall threads for the same contest. The only problem is will be hard to find the new theme having to sift through the discussion thread. Or can Shig change the title of the discussion thread at anytime since he's a mod?

[Shigeta]

PM'd

[KingDucky]

*cough*
Use my idea.
*cough*

Your still doing a great job among the confusion Shig.:hv20-smilie77:

[Daniel Rutter]

Hey guys...

I would just like everyone who's entered the contest previously, to PM the links to all their videos that they have made to enter into a previous contest, and in what contest they came.

Thanks;
Daniel


MODERATOR NOTE- Shigeta
I gave Daniel permission to post this, as he wanted to be in charge of rounding up previous videos from past contests. Let's give him a round of applause!

[Daniel Rutter]

EDIT:
Please do not post the links to this page! Please send them to ME directly, via private message.

Thanks!

[1]

Let's give him a round of applause!


:hv20-smilie07::hv20-smilie07::hv20-smilie07:

[Daniel Rutter]

I also have a request... can I get each of the entrants to send me a HD still from each of their entries please?

Thanks!

[KingDucky]

My idea was used.:hv20-smilie45:

[drapeama]

...a HD still from each of their entries please?

To use them as an avatar for each entry?

[Daniel Rutter]

To use them as an avatar for each entry?
No. I have a creative idea for them :)

[drapeama]

Then i'm better to choose a good one!

[KingDucky]

So all you people in the "Know" with Antmans contest know we need more people to know about the contest. People who aren't in the know..see:


"we need more people to know about the contest"

And Mal said it's cool to put up a a banner in place of the Hv20 HD Short Shorts contest since it's been over for a while.

So if anyone wants to try and make one just post em and we'll see which one people like the most. And which ever one is most popular will be put up.

So..have at it!:hv20-smilie77:

[HueyNRolf]

Oh and Mal,

Any chance of a recognition award for the winner?
Like rep points or a trophy icon, perhaps both?

[1]

Any chance of a recognition award for the winner?
Like rep points or a trophy icon, perhaps both?

Great idea on the trophy thingy...let me check into that...
:hv20-smilie77:

[1]

Yep, figured it out already. Works.

1) Need someone to design the trophy images (two, taking our two colored backgrounds into account).

2) Also would need a list of past winners so we can make it happen retroactively....

[Daniel Rutter]

Lets say someone is watching TV, as long as the point is that the character is watching TV, then the content is incidental and within fair use.
Well in my last entry, the T.V in the background had some infomercial (Some acne treatment, not sure what it was) stuff playing...

[Daniel Rutter]

2) Also would need a list of past winners so we can make it happen retroactively....
Check the list of previous entries, I put the winners at the bottom of each list.

[drapeama]

1) Need someone to design the trophy images (two, taking our two colored backgrounds into account)

Got it Mal, i can do it tonight (already have something to do but i'm free after 4pm)
Any particular suggestions?

Edit: This is was what i already done last time we were talking about it:
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?p=305325&page=2
http://www.hv20.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7325&d=1268556629

[Lawrence189]

The trophy should be a golden HV30.

[HueyNRolf]

How about a fake oscar?

[drapeama]

How about a fake oscar?

I can try to find it back, but Erik told me it wasn't a good idea (copyright and all).

[HueyNRolf]

I can try to find it back, but Erik told me it wasn't a good idea (copyright and all).

I doubt the academy would care. If they come after us we can remove it and apologize sincerely. Come on, lets live a little?

[Lawrence189]

nice work on the gold ribbon, drape.

[drapeama]

Come on, lets live a little?

It's up to Mal!
I'll try to find back the fake oscar i did before the ribbon tonight. I'll let you know.

[drapeama]

How about a fake oscar?


I doubt the academy would care. [...] Come on, lets live a little?

As requested :
Addition : we could have a number over it, instead of having, let's say, 12 oscars/ribbons under the avatar so it wouldn't take a page to load a single post by someone who often wins the contest! Just saying.

[Shigeta]

Anyway we (you :P) can photoshop a "Antman Contest" in the bottom of it?

[Ratfink]

As requested :
Addition : we could have a number over it, instead of having, let's say, 12 oscars/ribbons under the avatar so it wouldn't take a page to load a single post by someone who often wins the contest! Just saying.

Actually that would do the opposite. Modern browsers only download the same image once. Using awards with numbers would require the award with the number to be loaded for each user.

Granted you don't want like 20 of the trophies loading as it would take up a lot of space.

[Playing]

I want one of those.

[drapeama]

Anyway we (you :P) can photoshop a "Antman Contest" in the bottom of it?
Can modify the original post, so here's the update.

Modern browsers only download the same image once.
I get what you mean, and it makes sense : but my point was more having too many oscars under the avatar, like antman and his 4 HVs or reputation. That was more my point.

[1]

nice trophy, unfortunately it's not really legal to use...:(

[drapeama]

nice trophy, unfortunately it's not really legal to use...:(

That was my point, told it to Huey but he insisted.
Do you prefer the ribbon instead?

[Daniel Rutter]

Anyone else wanna send some screens? I still need more than the one Drap sent me!

[1]

Looking good!

Now, if someone could send me a SIMPLE list of all previous winners....JUST their usernames...I can do this.

[paperkut12]

Looking good!

Now, if someone could send me a SIMPLE list of all previous winners....JUST their usernames...I can do this.

Sent a list along your way, thought I'd help out since I'm here :].

[1]

Great, thanks paper.

Will upload images now.

We can always change the image later, if looks odd, or too big, or whatever...

[KingDucky]

Previous winners are getting the little medal?

[drapeama]

Looks like so Ducky!
Going to be fun to have one below your avatar. Thanks again Mal! :hv20-smilie77:

[1]

It's slightly in conflict with the user title.
Hmm...also, I had to make it narrower to account for multiple wins ( thanks for NOTHING Vishus! :))

I'm considering removing the user title...well, let me try something else....

[drapeama]

I'm considering removing the user title...well, let me try something else....

Nooooo....i like my indie filmmaker status! lol

[KingDucky]

Sweet!!!!! Thanks mal!!!!:hv20-smilie45:

[1]

Okay, got it to where it's acceptable. The whole thing is getting a little long now, what with the medal, the avatar, the user titles, location, postcount, rep pics, etc, etc.

Used my allotted admin-time for the day, so can't do anything else to it right now.

The way it works: if there was no custom user title, that is now removed. Custom user titles stay.

[KingDucky]

No one?

[drapeama]

Just wondering, wouldn't have been better to place it under the reputation bars? I don't know if it's possible...so just saying.
Thanks Mal!

[drapeama]

I'm working on something right now...:hv20-smilie19:

[1]

it's possible...

no

[drapeama]

Thanks for the quick answer Mal!

[1]

BTW, it's impossible to please everyone, and I normally just do what's easy, fast and acceptable.

Interestingly, you seemed to be in conflict with yourself on this one:


...wouldn't have been better to place it under the reputation bars?


Going to be fun to have one below your avatar.


:hv20-smilie81::hv20-smilie81::hv20-smilie81:

[drapeama]

Interestingly, you seemed to be in conflict with yourself on this one:
:hv20-smilie81::hv20-smilie81::hv20-smilie81:

Gna Gna Gna...everything's at the bottom!

[1]

Indeed! :)

[HueyNRolf]

Nice work on the trophy.

[drapeama]

Finally, here's what i find pretty cool & simple:

[drapeama]

Thanks Huey.
It's simple, but the reward is there! Thanks to Mal!!:hv20-smilie77:

[Lawrence189]

Nice work on the trophy.

[Lawrence189]

Nice work, Drape. Very creative and bold. Hoooray, Hicha! BooYAH KAZAM!

[drapeama]

Kind of reminds me Ben-Hur's opening titles...

[drapeama]

Just noticed that only contest winner have posted something in this thread since Daniel created it...that's a lot of ribbons!

[1]

nice banner....where is it supposed to link to?

[drapeama]

And Mal said it's cool to put up a a banner in place of the Hv20 HD Short Shorts contest since it's been over for a while.


nice banner....where is it supposed to link to?

Eh, i suppose it was meant to be replacing the old one? I just did it, you're the one that choose where to put it. Used the size of the GlideTrack banner, i don't know if you could put it there?

[1]

You're not understanding: I need to know where to make it link to, once you click it.

[drapeama]

Oh...[time to go to sleep sorry]...well, as the contest changes every two weeks, i'd suggest to link it to the HD Shorts subforum (http://www.hv20.com/forumdisplay.php?f=38) (i guess people will be able to see which is the last and current contest...)

[1]

yeah, already did that.

have to say though...the forum is still quite messy.

very confusing to find out what's going on.

no wonder there's so few entries.....no one can find out what the heck is going on!!!

[drapeama]

Unless we merge all previous threads into one big thread...it's going to take a week to find something in it then!
Anyway, time to sleep...good luck Mal! :hv20-smilie126:

[Lawrence189]

The first time I got on forum I felt like I was in a jungle with 100 feet tall grass.

[KingDucky]

Awesome job Draps! Looks nice when it pops up on the home page.:hv20-smilie77:

[net]

have to say though...the forum is still quite messy.

very confusing to find out what's going on.

no wonder there's so few entries.....no one can find out what the heck is going on!!!

Just an idea, I don't know how much trouble it would be to do this...

Put four stickies (from top to bottom):
______________________________________________

Sticky: Contest rules [READ BEFORE ENTERING ANY OF THE ANTMAN CONTESTS]

Sticky: Antman's Quick & Dirty, Cheap & Cheerful Mini Film Contest.
Present contest: "(name of present contest)" [ENTER AND VIEW ENTRIES HERE]

Sticky: Antman's past contests [FILM ARCHIVE]

Sticky: Other threads and info about contests past and present [ASK YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT CONTESTS HERE]

______________________________________________

That last sticky, you take all the other threads, including from the older/original HV20.com contests and put them all into a sub-sub forum ("Other threads and info about contests...")

For example, "all the other threads" would include... (at the moment) the top/non-sticky thread is "Need BANNER for Antmans..." to the very last one/3rd page: "Anyone in Denver want to collaborate?"/2008 March 13th.
Stuff them into that last, "Other threads and info..." sticky.

Then, disable a non-mod being able to create a new thread in the "HD Shorts: HV20.com film contest" sub-forum, but enable thread creating for anyone, only in the sub-sub forum, ("Other threads and info...) which will lead to the sea of threads (which is what you see now in the 1st layer).

This way, when someone clicks on the 1st layer/"HD Shorts..." sub-forum, they will only see the four stickies (from "Contest rules..." to "Other threads..") in my example above.

When a new contest is created, a mod takes the previous contest and stuffs it in the archive sticky and changes the "Present contest" sticky to the new title/fresh thread.

[Shigeta]

I'm going to sleep. If I wake again, I'll respond. I hear you guys- just need some down time. Be back to attend to this!

[Daniel Rutter]

If people would send me stills of their work, I'd be making a bloody banner!

[AJUK]

If people would send me stills of their work, I'd be making a bloody banner!

You can grab stills from the Vimeo videos by using the 'snipping' tool in windows. Might be easier to get the exact frame you want that way.

Also easier than waiting for folks to send you their stills! :)

[drapeama]

When a new contest is created, a mod takes the previous contest and stuffs it in the archive sticky and changes the "Present contest" sticky to the new title/fresh thread.

So Shig could merge all the previous contest posts (#1 to #7) into the/an archive thread every new contest and just renaming the thread every time (Contest #8 - THEME) so we could link the banner to a single thread that'd be updated every two weeks with actual contest. That means a lot of job for the moderator (Shig) but i get the point and it's an interesting idea.
I offer to help Shig in this, if mods/admins are ok with this...

[net]

So Shig could merge all the previous contest posts (#1 to #7) into the/an archive thread every new contest and just renaming the thread every time (Contest #8 - THEME) so we could link the banner to a single thread that'd be updated every two weeks with actual contest. That means a lot of job for the moderator (Shig) but i get the point and it's an interesting idea.
I offer to help Shig in this, if mods/admins are ok with this...

The basic premise would be to send all the extra links to a sub, sub-forum (the only place where non-mods can start new threads)...while in the other 3 stickies; new thread creating disabled.

The Antman contest banner link would go to the main contest page with (only) the four stickies, which would have nothing else on the page. The last sticky would link to a sub, sub-forum where all the previous links would be permanently dumped there (all the extra threads we see now).

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2097/hv20contestidea.jpg
^(nothing else on page)^

Putting "ask questions here..." at the end of that link would hopefully keep questions out of the contest thread. Maybe that forum for threads could have a sticky at top that says "click here to contest main" - to go back to the four stickies, in case there's confusion once in that section with all the links.

I am suggesting this, so that when someone clicks to go to the contest page, they see only: "rules, entries, archived contests and links to "contest mini- forum" so that everything that's needed to enter is right there. All the clutter of threads will be sent to the mini-forum (last sticky/links to mini-forum) - to keep a simple focus on the actual contest...
...all the many threads will be banished to thread-land.:hv20-smilie68:


Once it is initially set up, I don't think it would really be a lot of work...after a contest is done, a mod could take an expired contest, place it at the top of the inside the archive sticky (list links - click to go to each thread).

...and then make a new thread to replace the previous active contest sticky, (with no comments yet except the mod's top comment with explanation of theme and due date), and then people will start to fill in the comments...

...then repeat process with next contest.

This is just a suggestion. I hope it helps. :hv20-smilie77:

[Shigeta]

@Net

You're suggestions are stupid. Shutup.

Just kidding man. :hv20-smilie84: We've (1 and I) have been talking and we really like where you're going with it. I'm currently working on it as we speak.

So if I'm understanding correctly- You want 4 sub-sub forums? Each one where relevant threads go?

[net]

@Net

You're suggestions are stupid. Shutup.

d'oh! :hv20-smilie81:




Just kidding man. :hv20-smilie84: We've (1 and I) have been talking and we really like where you're going with it. I'm currently working on it as we speak.

So if I'm understanding correctly- You want 4 sub-sub forums? Each one where relevant threads go?

Cool... (what I'm suggesting is) the last one, aka "mini-forum", would be the only actual "forum" in that anyone can add threads.
The other three.(I guess you could call them all "sub-sub forums"), except a key difference in the first 3 would be to disable thread creating/maybe even disable comments in the first, rules sticky.

I think. if you like this, it would be important to have only one active thread in the present contest sticky at a time and then chuck it in the archive sticky when it's done. :hv20-smilie70:

[1]

...we really like where you're going with it.

yeah, as long as it doesn't involve me doing anything! :)

Actually reading the last few posts, I'm already completely lost and can't understand it../

I think it would help if the antman contest thread titles all looked alike with the only difference being the number, theme and genre.
There's also two number 4 contests for some reason.
Antman's Contest #4- Cops: Comedy (http://hv20.com/showthread.php?t=35667)
Antman's Quick&Dirty Short Contest 4- Aliens (Action/ Drama) (http://hv20.com/showthread.php?t=35262)
One of those number four contests is quick and dirty the other number four is LONG and CLEAN?? Is that it?
Where's number 6?
It's all very confusing...

Yet all this needs is:
1) the STRUCTURE of the THREAD TITLES has to be identical across contests with the only difference being the number, the theme and the genre!
2) the current contest has to be easily accessible
3) the rules and entry requirements have to be easily found
4) the past contests' entries and winners have to be easily found

You can simply STICK the current contest, post the rules in the FIRST POST of that thread, and stick the entries of the past contests (like Daniel already did).
Two stickies. The current contest's sticky status changes once it's not current anymore.

The thread title is what will make or break this thing. It's the only thing any of us have to go by when choosing to click on a thread or not!
I don't want to take away from Antman who started this batch of contests, but the word Antman is not really helping the cause....
...especially as the thread title is not actually specifying what the contest is for....
The thread title has to be short, descriptive and to the point!
Make it count and be as precise with it as possible.
At this point I would probably suggest to rename them to (as an example):
Short Film Contest #8 - War / Drama
or
Antman's Short Film Contest #8 - War / Drama

It's not rocket science! :)

[1]

This thread is for general chatter about the Antman's Short Film contests

[Ian-T]

@Net

You're suggestions are stupid. Shutup.

?lol:hv20-smilie81:

[1]

yeah, as long as it doesn't involve me doing anything!


Well, I couldn't stand the mess any longer, and tidied it up some.
What a mess it was.

There ONE thread now where GENERAL discussions take place: THIS THREAD!

Contests-specific stuff goes into the appropriate contest threads.

Now all you guys have to come up with is CLEARLY defined rules that
can be copy & pasted into the FIRST post of each contest's thread, and amended as necessary!
It needs to spell out where to upload them, when to upload them and how the entries are judged.

[RockDonkey]

Do I see common sense here? This place has been a joke until now and I was going to remove my films from here to get rid of these cynical asskissers here.
This thing was about making deadlines and has a moderator who scares away potential participants by forgetting to open the competition. Never seen anything like it...

The original rules were something like this: It's you against the deadline. The last winner writes the next rules within 24 hours, then hosts and picks the winner in the way he chooses. Deadline every second Sunday 6pm.

[net]

So if I'm understanding correctly- You want 4 sub-sub forums? Each one where relevant threads go?

Looking back at what I said now - it's seems, in some cases, I confused "sticky" with "link" (to a deeper chain in the forum).

And to clarify about archiving, I meant throwing entire, expired contest threads into it's own section - to get them out of the way to avoid confusion for potential contestants.

Anyway, it's more understandable now. Good job, Mal. :hv20-smilie77:

Now I just have to get around to entering one of these contests. :hv20-smilie20:.

[drapeama]

Hey guys (Shig & Mal) i think you did a really good job cleaning the subforums and creating a "current contest" thread.
Only one thing : the banner shouldn't link to the "current" thread instead of the whole subforum? (sorry if i missed something)

[Lawrence189]

Nice to see this place getting cleaned up, great job.

[drapeama]

Here's an update for the banner, animated gif. Hope it's good enough and worth changing/updating it:
http://hv20.info/yopu/Antman's contest banner (animated).gif (http://hv20.com/forumdisplay.php?f=38)

[1]

Only one thing : the banner shouldn't link to the "current" thread instead of the whole subforum? (sorry if i missed something)

Yes, you missed your own post from two days ago:


...well, as the contest changes every two weeks, i'd suggest to link it to the HD Shorts subforum (http://www.hv20.com/forumdisplay.php?f=38) (i guess people will be able to see which is the last and current contest...)

:hv20-smilie01:

These youngsters of today, tss, tss...short attention-span!! :)

[1]

Here's an update for the banner...

VERY cool! Unfortunately the file size is too large....

[HueyNRolf]

About commenting my videos. People can say what they want. They do that according to how intelligent they are. I am not wondering anything as you suggest.

RockDonkey, the names of the three primary judges and the reserve judge are made known, from now on.

If the intelligence of these people bothers you, then you DO have the option of not participating. This would save a lot of time for you and others who do choose to participate.

Good luck to you.

[Shigeta]

Alright. Let's just get back to relevant talk. I'm deleting my post and your most recent one for the sake of it being personal business. The first one will stay because it's relevant.

For all to see- it was not relevant for the discussion. I am not deleting for no reason.

To address RockDonkey's concerns:

That ONE contest was delayed 8 hours. It was due to time difference and some miscommunication. Nothing that should have set you back. It is all organized now, and has been, so no need for complaining.

[1]

...and I removed the bad rep left for RockDonkey.

[RockDonkey]

Yeah, now it looks better. Still, I did two shorts to support this and when I point out that I didn't do that to get praised or win prices (and suggest sigheta not to lie) my post is deleted.

HueRolf, judges are super, if it is organized so it works.

[HueyNRolf]

HueRolf, judges are super, if it is organized so it works.
Thanks for your confidence... It hears as it goes.

[drapeama]

What's the maximum size for the animated banner Mal?
Updated version 2 = 88ko (smaller than this it looks like crap)
http://hv20.info/yopu/Antman's contest banner (animated)V2.gif

[drapeama]

Yes, you missed your own post from two days ago:

...But as YOU [MAL] made another thread that WILL BE updated with the ACTUAL contest every NEW contest...i think NOW it's DIFFERENT! :hv20-smilie24:(lol)
That's WHY i've been asking!

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...But as YOU [MAL] made another thread that WILL BE updated with the ACTUAL contest every NEW contest...i think NOW it's DIFFERENT! :hv20-smilie24:(lol)
That's WHY i've been asking!

Not the foggiest idea what that means, sorry!

Pic: 40KB is about the max I'd say.

[drapeama]

Not the best version, but ~39.5ko
http://hv20.info/yopu/Antman's-contest-banner-(animated)V3.gif (http://www.hv20.com/forumdisplay.php?f=38)

[KingDucky]

Cuttin it close there Draps.:hv20-smilie84:

[drapeama]

Not the foggiest idea what that means, sorry!
I'll try to explain it a bit better:
Since there's been a good clean up in this subforum, the banner should now link to the "Sticky : Current Contest (http://hv20.com/showthread.php?t=36384)" thread, instead of, like it's set right now, to the whole "hv20.com Film Contests" (http://hv20.com/forumdisplay.php?f=38).
Just asking because as i understand it, the "Current Contest" will be updated every new contest with the new theme : let's say it will be #8 > and i guess everything that was from the previous theme, #7, will be merged in a regular thread like #1 to #6 (ie: Antman's short film contest #7 - Revenge Theme).
Correct me if i'm wrong?

[1]

Correct me if i'm wrong?

Completely wrong! :hv20-smilie77:
Every new current contest is STUCK after the PREVIOUS CURRENT one is UNSTUCK.
Pic: is good. Will upload immediately...

[drapeama]

Completely wrong! :hv20-smilie77:
All right, i give up, i'll just trust you!:hv20-smilie24:

[1]

New banner now live: MANY thanks for all the work on that!

[drapeama]

New banner now live: MANY thanks for all the work on that!

:hv20-smilie87: I accept green thumbs only as payment method. :hv20-smilie24:

[1]

I accept green thumbs only as payment method.


No problem:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Y8P-VMJCVqkIfM:http://www.blueridgehospice.org/images/Changes%2520040810/thumb-plant3.jpghttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Y8P-VMJCVqkIfM:http://www.blueridgehospice.org/images/Changes%2520040810/thumb-plant3.jpghttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Y8P-VMJCVqkIfM:http://www.blueridgehospice.org/images/Changes%2520040810/thumb-plant3.jpghttp://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Y8P-VMJCVqkIfM:http://www.blueridgehospice.org/images/Changes%2520040810/thumb-plant3.jpg

[drapeama]

Thanks Mal! Exactly what i had in mind! :hv20-smilie77:

[Timbit]

This all just keeps getting funnier to read...! :hv20-smilie87:

I like the green thumbs, Mal.

[Timbit]

The forum is getting easier to read now. :hv20-smilie03:

How's the weather in Quebec, Drape? It's raining in my neck of the woods.

[drapeama]

How's the weather in Quebec, Drape? It's raining in my neck of the woods.

Not so bad, like 80% rain announced all over the weekend...:hv20-smilie15:
Can't wait to see what will be the next theme, working at night next week. Maybe i'll have some time to shoot a little something for it.

[drapeama]

Anyone with suggestion for the next theme, if the winner don't have anything in mind, so it won't delay the announcement of the next theme.

[Mal]

here's a theme idea: hv20.com

:)

[drapeama]

Why not, make a short, about people making a short/film...would be fun/interesting to see that! :hv20-smilie77:

[MikePizzoff]

Someone needs to update the Vimeo page. Not only does it say that entries are due by 6PM, but it also still says the current theme is "Power Outage"...

[Daniel Rutter]

This is completely unrelated to the current theme, but I really think there should be some sort of clarification on these medals above our avatars as to which theme we've won. Might be a little over the top, but... it clarifies...

[Playing]

...two weeks wasn't enough for me...

This is a problem for most of us.

I have an idea that might solve the problem and still give us a contest every 2 weeks.

Maybe a bit complicated to administer, but here is a suggestion to the powers that be:

A new contest starts every 2 weeks, but runs for 4 weeks. In other words, two contest overlap at all times. This way everyone has a chance to finish a project in 4 weeks. Those with more free time can finish one every 2 weeks.

To get started there would be one last contest of 2 weeks and one of 4 weeks starting now. The winner and the runner up could both set a theme this time. In 2 weeks the new winner sets a theme to run for the following 4 weeks.

Just a thought.

[Daniel Rutter]

You do realize that while two weeks isn't really ENOUGH to pen an idea (or one of decent quality)... it's more than enough for shooting and editing. Casting is one issue... and we don't have the luxury of casting agents or $1000's...

[Playing]

You do realize that while two weeks isn't really ENOUGH to pen an idea (or one of decent quality)... it's more than enough for shooting and editing.

Exactly. So you could spend 2 weeks writing a script and 2 weeks completing the video.
If you have lots of time you could shoot the one project and start writing the next one at the same time.

[MikePizzoff]

I feel the complete opposite. I think 2 weeks is far more than plenty of time to think up an idea (and write script if need be), film, and edit something that's under 5 minutes in length. Take a look at 48-hour film fests; they draft a script, film, and edit a movie running LONGER than 5 minutes in one weekend's time. Come on, guys, I have faith that you can do it!

[KingDucky]

it's more than enough for shooting and editing. Casting is one issue.

I feel the complete opposite. I think 2 weeks is far more than plenty of time to think up an idea (and write script if need be), film, and edit something that's under 5 minutes in length. Take a look at 48-hour film fests; they draft a script, film, and edit a movie running LONGER than 5 minutes in one weekend's time. Come on, guys, I have faith that you can do it!

Exactly. :hv20-smilie64:

You need a really simple story first off. Like Palmer said he was writing this complicated thing..You can't do that in 5 minutes. Write a story with minimal characters with a problem, confrontation, end the problem. Writing it shouldn't take more than..4 hours after editing it. I know a lot of people have to work like 9-5. But I see people who say they don't have time on here alot. You could be writing and getting stuff together instead of lurkin. Spend time wisely and get motivated. Even if you think it's going to be bad, make it anyway and let us be the judge of how good it is. And even if it isn't movietheater worthy it's better than all the people who didn't make anything.


^^^^and yes all that makes me a hypocrite cause I haven't done much in a while either.^^^^:hv20-smilie84:

GET FILMIN.:hv20-smilie58:

[Palmer S.]

Whoah, take it easy everyone! I in no way meant to start a debate about the length of the contest...while I like Playing's idea of two overlapping contests, it would be very difficult to execute in a manner that makes sense to everyone, and I can see things getting very sloppy, very quickly.

And I do believe that 2 weeks is a good amount of time for something running at 5 minutes. It's just the concept in particular that I came up with doesn't fit the bill; hence why I'm not entering it, and instead taking my time to make it the best it can be. I have no problems with making something simple, it's just that half the time, I don't want to. :hv20-smilie84:

[Playing]

I can only talk for myself, but it’s taking me more than 4 hours to come up with an idea that does not need a Titanic budget. But then of course I have never written a script in my life before these contests. I can easily do something in 2 weeks now that it’s winter here and I am less busy than normal.

[1]

I really think there should be some sort of clarification on these medals above our avatars

Sounds like too much work for me! :):)

Also, we have a separate thread for these discussions, which I'll move this into now.

[Daniel Rutter]

If anyone knows who entered round 11, and could PM me links of their entries... I'd like to update the Film Archive thread.

Thanks!

[Palmer S.]

Ah...so this is where my comment disappeared to. I like this new discussion thread idea...the contest threads themselves always managed to get so cluttered...

Thanks Mal!

[Timbit]

A new contest starts every 2 weeks, but runs for 4 weeks. In other words, two contest overlap at all times. This way everyone has a chance to finish a project in 4 weeks. Those with more free time can finish one every 2 weeks.

It might get a little confusing, but I kind of like the idea. :) You may need a mod for each section to make it flow smoothly though. A different name for the second contest would be in order too, so people wouldn't get confused with what's what. :D

[KingDucky]

I don't like it.

[1]

To all mods of this forum:

Looks like the ARCHIVE page isn't being updated; also, I think the last few winners haven't got their ribbon.

[Daniel Rutter]

I don't have any idea how to do the ribbon, and I've been a bit distracted... so updating the archive has been pushed aside. I'll get to it ASAP.

[Shaunp007]

I enjoy the idea of having the contest time extended to 3-4 weeks. I have wanted to enter the last 2 contests but after working 10 hours a day, getting home, spending just a little time with my wife, working out...I have about 1.5 hours a day to get anything done.

I'm not complaining...but I'm also not going to produce something that I'm not proud of, and I don't think I could produce anything of value, by myself, with the little time I have within a two week period of time. Just my two cents, I'm nobody on this forum and don't pull any weight, but I wonder how many others are like myself and would enter more contests provided more time was alotted.

I would love to be in college again, where I would have gobs of time to make movies and screw of in general. :)

[KingDucky]

I'll volunteer to be an official judge for the next contests. I have the free time to do it. I just wasn't sure If I was an official one this time, so I didn't write a "full review".

__________________________________________________ __________________

Here's how I would run this contest:

-Two full time Moderators to answer questions, take care of disputes, update and organize all the contest pages(aside from the Archive page, which is run by that specific mod).

-We should have 3 permanent official judges.

-A permanent backup judge, in case of a tie.

-Two backup judges in case the official judges report that they can't judge for that contest, so we don't have to ask around. We'll already have people at hand. I say two because I doubt all three main judges would be absent at one time.

-A full time Mod just for Vimeo. They would have access to the page and they would add all the videos and remove all old ones and update content. Of course other people(contest mods preferably) would have the page password, but wouldn't tamper with anything unless the Vimeo mod didn't show, where as the duties could go to someone with someone with the password, but doesn't have alot to do. Maybe the backup judge?

-The Vimeo page should be updated at the beginning of each new contest;with the theme included, and all the previous videos removed from the group. Done by the Vimeo Mod. All rules should always be present and accurate on the Vimeo page.

-After a contest is over the videos from that contest should be added to the archive as soon as possible, and as stated above be removed from the vimeo group. All the information for each video should be added(maker,equipment etc etc..) Possibly an Archive Mod as well to adhere to all these things.

__________________________________________________ ___________________

I probably forgot some stuff, but at least that way would keep it organized and well oiled. I know that's a lot of people(8 to 10) maintaining it, but I'm pretty sure if it was run that well and organized more people would feel confident in joining, knowing they'll get judged and receive good advice and tips.:hv20-smilie77:

[KingDucky]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sadly, that's probably my most though out post ever..outta 962.:hv20-smilie84:

[Jergling]

Regarding what KingDucky just said, I just made a new thread about the universal "To-Do" list. I listed some proposed "moderator jobs," and now I realize that I never mentioned Vimeo maintenance. Daniel, the post also contained links and names for contests 11 through 14, but 13 and 14 got truncated by the embed limit. As soon as the thread appears, I'll add the rest.

Congratulations Paperkut! What's the next theme gonna be?

[HueyNRolf]

Guys I tried to post the contest thread. When I submitted it a message appeared for a few seconds, but I wasn't quick enough to read it. I don't know weather it's on hold for approval or it was rejected (I've posted one before).

Help please Mal?

KD, when I get the contest thread up, you'll be able to see the few changes I've made to address the problems, which have dogged the contest up until now.
Your feedback would be most welcome.

[KingDucky]

Alrighty Huey.:hv20-smilie77:

[1]

No one, except mods & admins, can post new threads in this forum.

I suggest we all concentrate on this thread for while, before starting new contests:
The Almighty To-Do List (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?38996-The-Almighty-To-Do-List)



I haven't been informed about the last 4 or so winners, they all have not received their ribbons.
It's a mess.

No more new contests until you guys sort a few things out:

The Almighty To-Do List (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?38996-The-Almighty-To-Do-List)

[KingDucky]

Should I post my ideas in the almighty do to list too?

[1]

Seriously, I can't spend all my time in this forum. It's there for the benefit of all who want to join in, but you also are required to SELF-MODERATE and keep this tidy!!!

[Vishus]

I couldn't figure it out according to Vimeo:


I'm darned if I can find this dropdown menu.

To add someone as a moderator, this is what I did: Go to the Settings Tab across the top > then click on "membership" on the left side > at the bottom it says "Group Moderators" > Click the person you want as a moderator > then click "Save Settings" under that.

Hope that made Sense!

[HueyNRolf]

Thanks Vishus, that seems to work. I've made Daniel a mod.

[Daniel Rutter]

Hey Huey, thanks for that. I made a post in the forum section of your group about our "Archive" group as well.

I have also sent PMs out to various people who have previously won and entered the contest for some images from their previous entries.

[drapeama]

Just wondering the movie Huey made to get that ribbon?

[HueyNRolf]

I've no idea why I have a ribbon, it appeared at the same time I got mod status. I guess it's a mistake.

[Timbit]

We still haven't got our ribbons... :)

[Daniel Rutter]

I propose we use this when designing new threads... It took about 30 mins to design, might make things a little prettier ;)

http://i56.tinypic.com/mv6xht.jpg

[drapeama]

It's nice...but i don't get exactly where you want to use it, to replace the actual banner?
I guess it could be a good idea, but at the end of the year it'll be big!
But i think that could maybe help to get more people in the contest.

[Daniel Rutter]

What I mean is, basically whenever a new thread is started... to give it some eye candy, put this as the "banner" at the beginning of the post. Or.. something like that.
And maybe a collage can be done at the end of the year :)

[paperkut12]

That's pretty neat Daniel. I dig it.

[drapeama]

[...] put this as the "banner" at the beginning of the post.
If you're up to manage this, i think this could be a good idea, let's see what Huey and Shig thinks of that idea. I think it's a good one.

[Playing]

Hi Daniel, I like it. How could I not :)

[Timbit]

Hi Daniel, I like it. How could I not :)
Agreed. And sorry I never got any screen shots to you, Daniel. I've been really busy lately... :(

[Daniel Rutter]

I do plan on making it bigger, so if people are willing to send more screens (limit of one per entry from each person) I will mix it into another banner...

[drapeama]

I can't wait for the Halloween themed contest :D. I hope there's one.

As paperkut suggested, which is a cool idea imho, why not making a special event for the halloween : a month to do it, starting October 1st and deadline on October 31st.
We could run the antman's contest as usual and have this theme as a special event.
I like the idea. What do you guys thinks?

[paperkut12]

What do you guys thinks?

I think that sounds fantastic. I would enter it 100 effin %.

ALSO (Thank you edit button), I'd be willing to help with anything to make the Halloween contest come to fruition.

[paperkut12]

Oh, and Huey, when the winner is put into the thread in the footage forum, maybe you could post a link to the current one and a short summary of the contest in the thread that's created, so that people who don't know about the contest could be guided and hopefully want to contribute.

[Vishus]

Funny. When I PM'd HnR with the theme for this round I had mentioned that I was sad that it was too early for the Halloween contest.

I like the idea of announcing it on the 1st, and having it run until the end of the month. Does having it end the 29th make sense so that we can see the entries BEFORE halloween?

Actually just thinking here... I think I can get together a halloween-themed prize pack if that will get us some more interest/entries.

More thinking out loud... What if we run the current Antman's 'Twist' contest (until the 12th), then run the Halloween contest until the 29th, Then start the Antman's next Round on November 1st? The winner of the "Twist Contest" gets to pick the theme for the contest that starts on the 1st, and the winner of the Halloween contest gets the prize pack?

Good idea, bad idea? Too much stepping on toes? Bad idea to run two contests at once? Awesome idea since it gives people a longer chance to throw more fake blood around? :hv20-smilie01:

[paperkut12]

Good idea, bad idea? Too much stepping on toes? Bad idea to run two contests at once? Awesome idea since it gives people a longer chance to throw more fake blood around? :hv20-smilie01:

I think it's a good idea, but I'm not sure how other people will see it. I see it as a nice little change of pace (which I hope isn't too jarring for this contest or how it's run) and it can be ran the same for the most part and still be back on track for the Nov. 1 date. We might get to see people who couldn't enter before enter now, and gosh darn I wanna hurl fake blood Vishus! heh.

Just my 2 cents.

[HueyNRolf]

Sorry guys, but running the main contest is more challenging than I thought. You might need to create another group for hosting. Maybe Shigs can assist with this one.

[Timbit]

So who's in charge of the next contest?

[Daniel Rutter]

So who's in charge of the next contest?
I'm wondering this myself.

[HueyNRolf]

You're a contest mod, Daniel.
Go on, jump in and give it a go!

EDIT:
Oh and you can start by MP'n Mal to get AJUK his ribbon. Good luck with that.

[Daniel Rutter]

You mean, PMing Mal?

If nobody steps up to take the role, I have no problems running the contest.

[Timbit]

Well... we do have no contest... Where's Drapes' and Shig's input. :)

[Daniel Rutter]

Well... we do have no contest... Where's Drapes' and Shig's input.
Shigs gave up, Draps has no internet (told me in a PM).

[Vishus]

So, it looks like Daniel is going to be running the contest. Cool!

We can't let this die!

So next one is the halloween contest (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?39235-Vishus-Halloween-Short-Film-Contest-2010) and then we jump into AJUK's theme, with Daniel running the show?

[Daniel Rutter]

I say, lets see how many are in favor of it... I don't want to jump in if only a select few approve.

[Timbit]

I'm fine with Daniel taking over.

[paperkut12]

Sounds good to me.

[KingDucky]

Count meh in.

[Fade to inferno]

your the man daniel

[Palmer S.]

I doubt anyone has a real issue with Daniel taking over, am I right?

I say let's just all try to focus on making Vishus' Halloween contest the best it can possibly be, and then we'll take Daniel's lead into the next "Antman". Can't wait to see what kind of theme you come up with AJUK!

[Timbit]

Good idea, Palmer. :)

[Lawrence189]

So it's all settled then! Good I want to get this going.

[drapeama]

Probably late to the conversation, i've been busy at home...which is not mine anymore...[personal situation]. Just to let you know guys that i won't have access to internet until a few days...i'll keep an eye on the email though via my blackberry...feel free to email me if there's anything else, i'll try to come back as soon as possible.

[Daniel Rutter]

Alright then, I'm happy to keep it going if you guys want. I don't want to see Antmans contest die!

[HueyNRolf]

Good man, Daniel. Would you like me to brief you on what needs doing?

[Daniel Rutter]

Good man, Daniel. Would you like me to brief you on what needs doing
Nope, it's all good. It's not that hard ;)

[HueyNRolf]

Fair enough. Enjoy!

[Timbit]

I don't want to see Antmans contest die!
Neither do I! :)

[Fade to inferno]

Look, I'm unsure of the details but if there is any type of rule change to any contest it should be voted on. We are a community and the contest would be nothing without their participants. Thus, let us hear from them. Put it to a vote please.

[Daniel Rutter]

Put it to a vote please.
Why waste a vote? We all know the community would vote against it. My decision is to do with the benefit of the contest. I've been appointed to run the contest, I'm running it the way I see it needs to be.

But, seeing as you all see fit to mutiny against me for one decision... I don't know where I stand anymore. With Huey encouraging people to 'rig the contest' and go against my decision. I can't run a contest with people knocking my legs from underneath me.

[Fade to inferno]

Ok, i see the problem.

Here lies the problem:

Running the contest means to be the mod that ensures that the contest is taking place, Deadlines are met, People get their ribbons, and new forum is posted, and enforce rules.
If you would like to change/add a rule. Then leave it to a vote. If we all vote against it, then there is a reason. That what WE believe is the best for the contest.

When the nazi's put jews to death they thought it was for the best for the world. All i'm saying is "the best" for anything cannot be decided by one person.

[Erik Bien]

When the nazi's put jews to death they thought it was for the best for the world.

Okay: now that it's fulfilled Godwin's Law, I think it's time to close this one down for a little while ...

[Erik Bien]

Re-opening at Daniel's request. Please welcome Bif, who has agreed to share the moderating duties for the ASF Contests and take a bit of the burden off Daniel. As a compulsive filmmaking contest entrant, past ASF winner and HV20.com contributor almost from the beginning, I can't think of anyone better suited for the job.

Administering a contest such as this has got to be one of the world's most thankless tasks: there's no money to be made, little help to be had, and a ton of thoroughly mundane work keeping the Vimeo and forum pages up to date. It doesn't matter how many talented, up-and-coming filmmakers wish to participate if there's nobody willing to take responsibility for all the boring necessary stuff, which brings me to my next point:

Stop with the personal attacks. They are in violation of HV20.com's extremely concise Terms of Service (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?7-Some-quot-guidelines-quot-for-posting...) and will NOT be tolerated here. Too many threads about the ASF contests have devolved into just this sort of foolishness. Particpants appreciate thoughtful criticism but they don't deserve to have their threads de-railed with irrelevant personal in-fighting.

All you guys squawking about what's 'wrong' with the way these competitions are being run, will you be happier if nobody suitable can be found to supervise the contests, and Mal pulls the plug? Because believe me, that's where this is heading. It's possible to express a dissenting opinion respectfully. The moderator failed to take your suggestion because, in his judgement, it wasn't the best thing for the contest, and that doesn't make him a 'Nazi.' Professional decorum and basic courtesy are expected here, and anything which, if said face-to-face might earn you a punch in the nose will earn you a ban here. I am so, SO not kidding about this. It's gotten way out of hand.

If you don't like it, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from starting your own contest. In fact, I would encourage it: that's how this and every other filmmaking competition at HV20.com started — somebody took the initiative. That's also how most of them ultimately petered out — no one could be bothered to take over after the founder moved on or drifted away from the forum. Both Daniel and Bif have entered winning films in our competitions here, and I have full confidence that they know what's best to keep Antman's Short Film Contest going strong.

[Daniel Rutter]

Please welcome Bif, who has agreed to share the moderating duties
Not exactly, he'll help us with judging (much like in the past, sharing constructive criticism on each entry).

Thankyou Erik, I appreciate that someone actually see's it from my perspective.

[HueyNRolf]

Fair enough Erik, lets hope they don't lose sight of the fact that the contest belongs to the community, not the the organizers. After all without contributions, there would be no contest.

A change in the rules should be at least discussed, not forced on people by someone who just happens to have mod status.

It would be really nice to see the contest grow. Heavy-handed management is one way to ensure negative growth.

[HueyNRolf]

Thankyou Erik, I appreciate that someone actually see's it from my perspective.

May I respectfully suggest that that's the problem. Shouldn't you start looking at things from a community perspective?

[Daniel Rutter]

May I respectfully suggest that that's the problem. Shouldn't you start looking at things from a community perspective?
The community didn't organize the contest, Antman did. Anyway, if you have any HELPFUL suggestions, post them in the 'proposed changes' thread. And try to be civil.

[HueyNRolf]

And try to be civil.

Was I uncivil?

[HueyNRolf]

Daniel, I have email alerts enabled. Even if you delete your response, I'll see it. So think twice before you hit that button.

[Daniel Rutter]

Yes well, the admins can also see it... so if you think I was hiding it, I wasn't. I just figured it would be best to let things lie.

[Fade to inferno]

whoa whoa whoa whoa. Never said anyone was a nazi. was just using an analogy =). just clearing things up lol

[Daniel Rutter]

Due to changes to the Halloween Contest, and Vishus extending the time line for that contest, we will be delaying the kickoff of Antmans Contest #17 until the 29th of October.
In the meantime, if you're fixing to make a film... why not check out the Halloween Film Contest (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?39235-Vishus-Halloween-Short-Film-Contest-2010)? You still have 10 days to film and submit! :)

[Daniel Rutter]

Due to changes to the Halloween Contest, and Vishus extending the time line for that contest, we will be delaying the kickoff of Antmans Contest #17 until the 29th of October.
In the meantime, if you're fixing to make a film... why not check out the Halloween Film Contest (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?39235-Vishus-Halloween-Short-Film-Contest-2010)? You still have 10 days to film and submit! :)

[Vishus]

why not check out the Halloween Film Contest (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?39235-Vishus-Halloween-Short-Film-Contest-2010)? You still have 10 days to film and submit! :)

There is a prize pack! :) Right now there is only one entry, and the prize is going to be given out regardless. If we get a bunch of entries, the prize pack grows!

(thanks for the plug Daniel)

[Timbit]

I'll do my best to enter, it's just coming up with the idea to write upon... :(

[paperkut12]

So, will the theme for the next contest be announced earlier, right after the Halloween contest???? I'm eager to start on that one since I'm unable to join the Vishus' contest.

[Daniel Rutter]

So, will the theme for the next contest be announced earlier, right after the Halloween contest???? I'm eager to start on that one since I'm unable to join the Vishus' contest.
Hey Paperkut... I will be announcing the new theme in 24 hours ;)

[paperkut12]

Hey Paperkut... I will be announcing the new theme in 24 hours ;)

Sweet.

[1]

Re: Ribbons, sorry folks, I deleted all the ribbons, as their upkeep was just too much work for me. You have to figure out another way (that doesn't involve me) to display the new ribbons.

[Fade to inferno]

my ribbon! i was so proud.... *cries*


suggestions for new method or awards?

also Mal, do all mods have the power to change the "subname" under the Main name. for example Mal's says "Traveling Mal"? I'll allow someone else to answer the question (cuz i know mal gets busy and may not see this post till much later)

[1]

also Mal, do all mods have the power to change the "subname"

nah, that's the prob, only Lunchbox and I can do that...

[Timbit]

So only the Administrators can do the fancy stuff? Hmm... maybe it's time to check out Playing's idea with stars in our Avatar pictures...

[KingDucky]

stars in our Avatar pictures...

Or if you really want to show off you won just put something like "winner of Antmans #so and so contest" in your Sig.

[RockDonkey]

Yep, the signature is the solution.

I would vote for a list where you get your name when you have participated a number of times. Could be one list for five times and another for twenty. Then no-one needs to write any names there almost every week either. But still it would be an honor to get there and no-one can take you away from there either.

A list for more than twenty times would not exist. That would be too odd :-)

[1]

...only the Administrators can do the fancy stuff?

Exactly!

[drapeama]

Re: Ribbons, sorry folks, I deleted all the ribbons

I think you forgot Bif.

[Daniel Rutter]

And Draps.

[Timbit]

And Draps.
I think it's actually his avatar now... :p


EDIT:

I wonder where my title of "Fancy Stuff" came from...

[paperkut12]

Just an idea that could be implemented in future contests (preferably when I have a camera again hehe), but the idea is having the theme be "Recreate a scene from a movie" and obviously it could be any movie you like and you could either remake it shot for shot, line for line, or actually remake it and change it up more. It could be cool to see what people do with it and hopefully draw some interest and more than 1 entry to break that trend :D.

[drapeama]

[...]having the theme be "Recreate a scene from a movie"
I like the idea, but i think that would infringe the copyright rule. But if people would bypass that rule for that particular type of theme, i'd be in. I think it would be even more easier to do something, and i'd like to do my versions of scenes from my favorite movies. that would definitively be an interesting idea.
That would be easier for people to shoot something, if they choose a scene that doesn't involves much (sets, actors, props...) That would definitvely be an interesting option.
I already got 2-3 ideas that could be done in a day, shooting & editing. we should set a genre at least (Cops, Comedy, Gangsters...or cult-classic movie > Just think about people recreating a scene from Pulp Fiction or Lethal Weapon)

Maybe a "fan-film" could be considered too.

[paperkut12]

i'd be in. I think it would be even more easier to do something, and i'd like to do my versions of scenes from my favorite movies. that would definitively be an interesting idea.
That would be easier for people to shoot something, if they choose a scene that doesn't involves much (sets, actors, props...) That would definitvely be an interesting option.

Exactly you will be doing your version of your whatever favorite scene you choose. You wouldn't have to worry about copyright issues if you change it up, or re imagine it. And you'll still be able to do thing with props and such if the person wanted and had the resources, there's so many choices someone could land on something doable.

It'd be kind of like sweding you're favorite scene in a way (If you've seen Be Kind Rewind it's kind of like that, minus copyright stuff -.-)

[Bif]

I like the idea, but i think that would infringe the copyright rule.

Maybe a "fan-film" could be considered too.

My opinion: That wouldn't violate the copyright rule anymore than "fan-films" have been doing and so far I see no indication of the major studios taking any legal action against "fan-films". I think what has been proposed would tend to fall under the "parody" category and since only scenes or sequences would be "copied" and not a whole feature, we should be on OK "ground" if we did something like that.

"Fan-film"? Sure!

Bruce Foreman

[drapeama]

"Fan-film"? Sure!

Cool, if you like the "fan-film" idea, and if Daniel likes it too, then it could turn up into Fan-Film contests in 2011.
I'd say, "Fan-Films" and/or "Favorite Scene/Quote Revisited" could be some interesting options and could be easier for people. And it would be interesting to see people's takes on something we all know: Imagine Daniel recreating a scene from Die Hard or something, that could be very interesting to watch. Sure we should at least set a genre for each contest, otherwise it would be hard to determine a winner comparing Wayne's World to John McLane...but it could be fun.
Whatever it's chosen, i'm in.

[RockDonkey]

These suggestions are good because it's fun to watch when you know the original movie. It is sort of the comparing that gives the viewer joy.
And these also pretty much write themselves, which also helps.

[drapeama]

And these also pretty much write themselves, which also helps.

I think a 1:1 remake of a scene/quote of a movie would be cool, it's not too long, you will use the same lines/dialog and you can use the same camera work too. It has already been written, storyboarded and you have a good idea of the editing...
Sure it's not that much creative, but just to watch others' takes on classics would worth it.

We could only replace the "theme" by "quote and/or scene" every 2 weeks. Or at least we could try it, if it works then great, if not...we don't change anything.

[paperkut12]

It's cool to see people keen on this idea. It has potential to be great given good participation and organizing.

[HueyNRolf]

It has potential to be great given good participation and. . .

That's the catch, how many people would be able to get the talent?
A cool idea to remake your favorite movie scene, but I think it would bomb.

[paperkut12]

That's the catch, how many people would be able to get the talent?
A cool idea to remake your favorite movie scene, but I think it would bomb.

Well, that's why you try and choose a scene where there aren't many actors in it. Sure it's a draw back if there needs to be a conversation or anything and you have only yourself (no one wants to see someone aimlessly walking around), but you could try and choose a more low-key scene. That's where coming up with your own version of it comes in. You can toy with the amount of actors within the scene, or how it plays, but the core feeling/style, and such, is there; it just depends on what you do with it.

The point would not to be for someone to try and perfectly remake shot for shot (although acceptable), but to open it into interpretation and changes. I think it's worth a try in the least..what can it hurt?

[paperkut12]

Oh, and I was thinking people would pick their own scenes too, not be limited by a "scene theme". They can go with whatever style they like.

[HueyNRolf]

How about we make it optional?

Lets say the theme is 'crime' entrants can make their own short crime flick or do a scene from 'Goodfellas' good luck pulling off the latter. The way things are with the contest, you have to be careful about scarring off would be participants. The more options there are the better for attracting people to have a go.

[drapeama]

How about we make it optional?

That would be a very good idea. The more option there is, the best it is.

[Daniel Rutter]

Re-enactments are a great idea guys, I myself have been wanting to put my acting skills to the test by trying re-enacting scenes from Desperado, Pulp Fiction and others. I'll consider this for our first 2011 contest.
Happy new years guys! In Australia, it's about 1h:45 minutes into 2011.

[Fade to inferno]

Has their been any word on the "The Best of 2010" thingy?

[Bif]

It's being worked on.

[drapeama]

It's being worked on.

Any idea on a date?

[Daniel Rutter]

Any idea on a date?
Once everyone gets back to me that I've PMed, then we can begin. I don't have any dates as of yet.

[charlie_tango]

This is the first time i am posting here, my friend (drapeama) told me about this contest and i have been supposed to help him for 1 or 2 theme but it never happened.
I will look for the next contest and maybe i will come up with something, or i will help him to do something, we will see!

[Playing]

Great idea. I've always wanted to redo the opening scene of "Saving Private Ryan". Failing that I am thinking of "Deep Throat", but I am sure that falls foul of a rule, can't recall which one. Ah well, back to the drawing board.

Happy New Year everyone.

[Timbit]

A scene re-enactment sounds cool! :)

[net]

If you need an idea for a contest, here is one:

Make a trailer for a an upcoming movie that doesn't exist.
Mimic a real trailer, for example, At the beginning: the rating screen (G/PG-13, R/this preview is intended for all audiences, etc.), announcer voice/suspenseful music/fast cuts..ends with "coming December 2011"..(but just for example).

Difficulty:
-Any genre
-Must be 2 minutes or less
-Cannot be about a pre-existing movie; famous or not

[paperkut12]

I really like that idea, net. I've done a few fake trailers before (all very bad), but it would be a nice variable for the contest, could be very fun. How everyone else feel on it?

[Daniel Rutter]

How everyone else feel on it?
That will be the next contest theme then :)

[Vishus]

I am glad to see that there is another contest coming! With the two weeks that have passed since the last one, I was getting worried!

[Daniel Rutter]

I am glad to see that there is another contest coming! With the two weeks that have passed since the last one, I was getting worried!
There will definitely be more contests, we're just organising a "Best of 2010"... We've got the people working on it ;)

[drapeama]

So the next contest will be early in February? After the Best of 2010?

[Daniel Rutter]

So the next contest will be early in February? After the Best of 2010?
Earlier than that mate, much earlier.

[net]

I really like that idea, net. I've done a few fake trailers before (all very bad), but it would be a nice variable for the contest, could be very fun. How everyone else feel on it?

Cool..glad you like the idea. I thought of suggesting this as it could be something short anyone could give a shot at.



That will be the next contest theme then :)

Nice...if you want to make a minimum time, like 30 seconds, up to you.

[paperkut12]

Any chance of you getting in on the contest, net?

[drapeama]

I thought of suggesting this as it could be something short anyone could give a shot at.

That would be easier to do. Let's say a 1min trailer, with the MPAA intro and the comming soon at the end, that would be perfectly doable.

[Timbit]

I like the sounds of that! :)

[drapeama]

Well, i can't wait to see what's next for the upcoming contest, as i'll be off for a week starting wednesday. Could be nice to do something for this one...

[Daniel Rutter]

Yes, well the contest has had some poor attendance for the last 3 themes... I think it's about time some of the "moviemakers" on this forum got up and proved themselves ;)

[charlie_tango]

Yes, well the contest has had some poor attendance for the last 3 themes... I think it's about time some of the "moviemakers" on this forum got up and proved themselves ;)

I think it's very good idea. I'm sure that it will "wake up" a lot of moviemakers..because it will give more options to make short movies...
And the few last themes were not very easy to make.

[paperkut12]

And plusss, fake trailers are fairly easy to make. They're basically just random footage with parts of scenes that should be whole! (I just hope I have my camera in time).

[net]

yeh, paperkut...I'll probably give this contest a go. :hv20-smilie77:

[charlie_tango]

I'll probably give this contest a go. :hv20-smilie77:

I will try to do something too for this one, depending what the theme will be...the "book" and the "unique" themes were not the most easy to do...:hv20-smilie51:

[drapeama]

Earlier than that mate, much earlier.

So when does the next one starts!?

[...] the "book" and the "unique" themes were not the most easy to do..
I agree.

[Daniel Rutter]

So when does the next one starts!?
*sigh*... I keep telling people, once the Best of 2010 judging is complete, a new contest will begin.

[Timbit]

once the Best of 2010 judging is complete
Which... is being worked on! :)

[drapeama]

*sigh*...


Which... is being worked on! :)

I was only kidding you Daniel! :hv20-smilie24:

[Vishus]

*sigh*... I keep telling people, once the Best of 2010 judging is complete, a new contest will begin.

Who is judging? Did I miss nominations? I was off the board for a bit over the holidays.

[Daniel Rutter]

Who is judging? Did I miss nominations? I was off the board for a bit over the holidays.
Huey and Azymth are guest judges for selected categories, and a "People's Choice" category will be chosen from 5 top films of the year, voted by the public via Poll.

[RockDonkey]

Sounds like a highlight, Daniel. Tell us more about this mysterious event.