PDA

View Full Version : Shooting in Alaska



CrEsT
2007 May 19th, 19:05
Hi folks,

I just got an HV20 but I'm a totally newbie on video stuff, so anyhelp would be appreciated.

I will take a cruise to Alaska in a couple of weeks and of course I'll take the HV20 with me.

In which scenarios is recommended to shoot @ 24P? and when 60fps?
Any suggestions from experienced people shooting nature with this camera?

how is the 24P performance while walking or shooting glaciers from a plane?

Thanks for your help.

Mal
2007 May 19th, 21:34
I'd shoot 60i; that way you don't have to worry about slow pans, etc. Your footage will look stunning, and you'll be able to use slow motion afterwards in post (by slowing down the footage) if you wanted to.

Stick to 60i is what I'd recommend.

neocastillo
2007 May 19th, 21:55
I say shoot 60i as well. It will look more "real" as if you were there again.

ib84
2007 May 20th, 08:42
donīt undertsand why you all opt for 60i. I think you should differentiate: if there is much motion, you should go for 60i.
But in general use 24p/25p as often as you can, for example if your plane is flying in some altitude (slower motion). 24p is the pure video. with 60i later most likely you would want to deinterlace, and this process is quite lossy.
so, 60i only if you have to move a lot the camera, or if subject moves. 24p is the real thing.
have a nice travel (myself i am going to Mexiko tomorrow...)

CrEsT
2007 May 20th, 11:07
have a nice travel (myself i am going to Mexiko tomorrow...)

Really? Cool, I'm actually Mexican... have fun!

Mal
2007 May 20th, 12:21
donīt undertsand why you all opt for 60i.

Deinterlacing shouldn't be problem at all. That can be done just about lossless these days.
The 24/25 fps is nice to get that film look, but for a holiday shoot I'd still recommend 60i....all the time.
Yes, of course it will depend on personal preference, but 60i is actually quite a bit more versatile, as you can play with it in post. Once you've shot 24/25p, you're stuck with that amount of captured frames; which is the reason I'd only recommend 24/25p if you have a controlled environment.

dasbin
2007 May 20th, 13:42
But in general use 24p/25p as often as you can, for example if your plane is flying in some altitude (slower motion)

One potential problem is that the lower framerate makes rolling shutter artifacts worse. If you've ever seen the HV20 "helicopter test" clip, my guess is you'd take back your recommendation for shooting in the air at 24P.

The HV20 is a light, shaky cam, that uses HDV, and has bad rolling shutter. These three things put together means that really 24P is only suitable for controlled shots or where you know for sure it's going to look good.

CrEsT
2007 May 22nd, 14:22
I think I will go with 60i... don't want to ruin the vacations video trying to make it look better.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Mal
2007 May 22nd, 14:31
I think you'll get STUNNING footage at 60i, CrEsT, that you won't be disappointed with.

kadzbiz
2007 September 1st, 19:01
Hey guys, I've just joined and reading & learning heaps here. Just to come intop this conversation late, how does one choose to shoot at 60i?

Felix
2007 September 3rd, 01:44
Hey guys, I've just joined and reading & learning heaps here. Just to come intop this conversation late, how does one choose to shoot at 60i?


I think that on the HV-20, there are only 2 High-Def mode options to choose from. Once on Camera mode, press the function button and select the MENU icon on the bottom, then move down to the REC/IN SETUP sub-menu and select HD STANDARD. You will only see 2 choices for HDV. I believe the 60i would be the first one or just plain HDV. The 24p mode is pretty obvious as it is HDV(PF24).

Good luck!

kadzbiz
2007 September 3rd, 07:17
Oh thanks. Obviously I just wasn't understanding what the 60i actually meant. Thanks again.