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FoolsCrow
2009 September 17th, 19:10
Opps I meant boom box ...
This is for Jolly or those smart ones who make nifty electronics.

I have a little device called TV B Gone which remotely turns off tv sets. its a great tool when youve seen enough news reports at the airport etc.

I am wondering if anyone thinks it would be possible to make a device to disable boom box cars. I have some in my hood that wake me every morning and sometimes shake my place for days. It is way more than iIcan handle and i would love to be able to hit the off switch sometimes.:hv20-smilie01:

Tuluws
2009 September 17th, 20:22
There's already one out there, it's called an RPG!!! :hv20-smilie68::hv20-smilie68:

FoolsCrow
2009 September 17th, 21:48
RPG??
IS that a game?
Anything FOR REAL?!! Besides a gun...

CycleWriter
2009 September 17th, 21:52
RPG=Rocket Propelled Grenade

You're as bad as Conan O'Brien. He was talking last night to Aaron Eckhart who mentioned shooting some RPGs while touring with the USO and Conan had no idea what an RPG was.:hv20-smilie87:

FoolsCrow
2009 September 17th, 22:21
Ha ha ...Noone has ever compared me to Conan before!:hv20-smilie84:

I googled RPG and got role playing game. I figured the poster was saying I could "virtually" blast the boom cars that keep waking me right round 4 am when i am in the delicious part of a dream. Though Lately my dreams have been featuring earthquakes and tsunamis which though scary would clean the streets of those #%88!@ BOOOM bass car stereos!

Jolly how much can i pay you for this invention??PLEASE OH PLEASE!!

koolpenguin89
2009 September 17th, 23:03
Aahhh, suck it up. It's just music, if you have that big of a problem with it, call the cops and have them take a decible reading. As for a device that would disable the subwoofer in someones car, that would be more illegal than them having loud music anyways. Their amplifiers are hooked straight into their cars battery, so you would have to disable their battery. It might be easier just to take a knife to the thin membrane of the actual subwoofer and cut it to pieces.

Dylan

FoolsCrow
2009 September 17th, 23:13
Yeah Im sucking it up daily and nightly. MOstly I take it but there are times when Ive reached my wall cuz it seems there is just no respect at all. No fair play . When it is over the top and wayy too much of our day or night why the f..k should we all be forced to suck it up. And is that music? Hows my pal handling it with her hearing implant? Its bloody hell for her.

I wouldnt impose really bad country ballads, or say christian folk music ( think that might kill me too!) on them whenever i feel like it , at top volume , with added unreal heavy bass to the point that your walls are shaking and all pacemakers are skipping. I really havent heard much music from any of them either. Having this as your permenant neighbors is something else. Wouldnt wish it on u2

As far as calling the cops I just dont. They dont have a decibel meter , just a stun gun. Besides it takes them too long to munch down their donuts ,finish up at the massage parlour, and smoke that joint they just seized to get to my concerns.
But thanks for the knifing instructions ...something to keep in mind for that rainy boom box day!!

cgbier
2009 September 18th, 00:43
It's just music,...

I'm always amazed what kids call music nowadays :hv20-smilie03:

If those morans have any grasp of language, you might want to talk to them. If they don't understand words, a 12 gauge might speak a language they understand.

koolpenguin89
2009 September 18th, 01:30
Wow, harsh. I'll assume you are reffering to hip-hop, although i will note that not everyone in a car with a good sound system listens to hip-hop, some people are just audiophiles and enjoy listening to every note an artist records. Which brings me to my next point: Whether or not you like their specific style of music, it doesn't make their music any less an art form than any other artist, and i don't believe anyone on this forum has the authority to decide what is or is not music. Try to have an open mind about these types of things.

Dylan

CycleWriter
2009 September 18th, 02:44
BB gun works wonders. Very stealthy.:hv20-smilie68:

mrblofish
2009 September 18th, 03:00
BB gun works wonders. Very stealthy.:hv20-smilie68:

for some people a BB gun doesn't inflict the necessary pain and damage needed to properly teach those young music playing ANIMALS referred to a corrective enough lesson...BB guns are for the annoying good kids...who are only having fun playing "GOOD" music...not those noise CRIMINALS with their ILLEGAL boom boxes...lol...

lobstaman
2009 September 18th, 09:23
I don't own a big ILLEGAL boom box in my car however the sound system that came with my car has a fair amount of "boom" per say. I love music and like to listen to it fairly loud and I'm sure when I drive by some homes close to the street they can hear the bass. Having said that late at night or early in the morning i keep it turned down to a reasonable level out of respect for people who may be sleeping. But during the day or early evening it's turned up to whatever I want to listen to it at.

FoolsCrow
2009 September 18th, 11:21
I love music and I dont have a problem with Hip Hop. What ever they are playing I can honestly not dicipher the music in there. It is just pure thumping heavy duty noise which hurts too much to hear. It also induces alot of stress. Dont see no dancing to that stuff. MArvin Gaye, Johnny Rotten , James Brown..all of them would scream "TURN THAT SHEET OFF NOW!! "
It is a far cry from just a stereo with extra bass. There is no concern/ respect for anyone but themselves. I dont get it.:hv20-smilie15:
If they just drove by that would be one thing but they live right around me. There have been severe beatings and other horrors here that I would like to avoid if possible. I know i should move but it isnt that easy at this time.
I am not heartless enough to want to injure these humans even if they do seem really subneanderthal. Picturing me aiming with my BB gun , trying to hit just the subwoofer on their cars , makes me laugh!!
Ahh where is super sleuth technology when you need it!!
:hv20-smilie58: JOLLY!!! CAN YOU MAKE PLEASSSE build Some kind of little remote that just turns it off . I offer my kingdom for this tool!!

Erik Bien
2009 September 18th, 12:59
As kp mentioned, you'll never get a remote electronic device to magically interrupt the wiring between a car stereo amplifier and a subwoofer (well, I suppose a small neutron bomb might be able to take it out with EMP, along with every other electronic device within the blast radius).

However, I'm reminded of a story (true or not, I couldn't say) found on the 'net while researching parabolic reflectors. A guy was being disturbed every night by his neighbors' teenaged son's garage band. He complained to the parents, who insisted that they'd had the garage "professionally soundproofed," and refused to do anything more about it (of course the kids were unwilling to keep the soundproofed door shut and were opening it to serenade the neighborhood every night). Eventually the guy built himself an enormous parabolic reflector dish, aimed right back at the would-be guitar hero's house. The band struck up, he aimed the reflector ... and blew out all the windows in the front of mom and dad's house! :hv20-smilie152:

koolpenguin89
2009 September 18th, 16:36
I don't own a big ILLEGAL boom box in my car

Just for the record, decibel levels are only limited in certain towns and neighborhoods. Boom cars are not illegal everywhere.


What ever they are playing I can honestly not dicipher the music in there.

This is due to the fact that those long wave lengths generated from the lower notes will travel farther and further through objects, making it more pronounced at far distances from the source than, say, the medium or high notes. With a properly balanced car audio system, you can hear every note perfectly when you are inside the car.

Dylan

iThinkergoiMac
2009 September 18th, 18:00
I like the parabolic reflector idea.

I've got a pair of 12" subwoofers in my car, getting 75W each. Not that much power, but in a Civic coupe it's all the bass I need... I can feel the hairs on my neck moving if I turn them up enough! My mom likes to complain that she can hear when I pull up. But... that's only during the day, and if I'm going to be in the neighborhood for more than the 45 second drive it takes for me to get home, I turn it way down.

As others have stated, there's absolutely no way you can turn off those subs remotely short of an EMP burst, which will turn off/ruin all electronic devices in the surrounding area (including your car as well, unless it runs off a carburetor). Then you'd get in a lot more trouble than it's worth.

PS: Anybody have some ideas for mounting a sub box and amp in the trunk? My amp slides around a good bit (since I've got no way to mount it) and it's breaking the remote turn-on wire, causing the bass to go in and out.

cgbier
2009 September 18th, 19:56
Wow, harsh. I'll assume you are reffering to hip-hop, although i will note that not everyone in a car with a good sound system listens to hip-hop, some people are just audiophiles and enjoy listening to every note an artist records. Which brings me to my next point: Whether or not you like their specific style of music, it doesn't make their music any less an art form than any other artist, and i don't believe anyone on this forum has the authority to decide what is or is not music. Try to have an open mind about these types of things.

Dylan

Relax! This is the same discussion I had with my old man, and with my grampa, and grampa mostlikely with my father's grampa ... it' called generation conflict :hv20-smilie03:
I don't have a problem with the music per se, and, having a daughter and several nieces and nephews in your age, I was forced to getting used to it.

However, these boom box cars constitute a disturbing of the peace, if not an absolute disregard for others. It's that kind of responsibility thing that ensures your own freedom as long as you don't interfere with another person's freedom.
I don't have a problem with them cruising on the highway or show-off on downtown cruises, but when they think they need to blast at 2AM in a sleeping suburb, then I have a problem ... or they have.

You never had an audio recording messed up, just because on of them cars passed by half a mile away, eh?:hv20-smilie03:

Illegal? Why must common sense always be legislated?

koolpenguin89
2009 September 18th, 22:06
Well, the sub box should be secured to the floor of the trunk with L brackets. Then you could mount the amp on top or on the side of the sub box. Assuming your sub box is made of wood, some short screws should work.

Dylan

FoolsCrow
2009 September 18th, 23:02
I have no problem with multi various art forms and music. I am curious about them all.Bring em on. The more diversity the better.
And I feel this has very little to do with music or with inter generation issues.
Many boom box folks might not want POLKA RAMMED down their throats or country wailing songs when they are nursing that wicked handover or how bout big ol plaid bagpipes rockin your wall on the night you have to study for that exam to pass grade 12 again ?
It is about fairness and mutual respect. You can play what ever you like just dont force eveyone in that box with you. I heard a great program today about how the military is using sound and "music " as a primary tourture weapon. A way to torture people without laying a finger on them. No bruises you can see but can easily make people lose their minds. I totally get this one. Its about respect.

donsolo
2009 September 19th, 08:29
some people are just audiophiles and enjoy listening to every note an artist records.
Dylan

As an audiophile (Paradigms run through an anthem amp with a lucid clock in an acoustically controlled mastering facility), I'll tell you this:hv20-smilie64::

The car is not an audiophile place. The noisefloor is so incredibly high from tire noise, motor, wind etc that car stereos are a joke among audiophiles.

The guys with subs in their cars are wannabe audiophiles or hood rats. And there's nothing worse than a wannabe audiophile.

You know, the guy who carries on about watts rather than frequency response curves...


But yes, car booms are a PITA. What's worse is now my downstairs neighbor just got Beatles Rock band (or guitar hero or whatever) and I have to listen to the "come together" bassline about 20 times a night...

Did I mention that he goes to bed at about 7AM?

Noise is a problem. Get a white noise generator, it will cover up some of that car stereo sound and provide a soothing hiss all night. It's actually very subtle and pleasant.

FoolsCrow
2009 September 19th, 10:34
Thanks Don solo. Can you suggest a good white noise generator? Earplugs are not doing it for me.

Seo
2009 September 19th, 10:52
Or get one of those Bose noise canceling headphones. Not too sure if they'll work for your kind of noise though... Donsolo?

And LOL at the EMP. I wonder how one would get their hands on one anyway, let alone have the guts to set one off in a neighborhood. XD

donsolo
2009 September 19th, 11:38
Thanks Don solo. Can you suggest a good white noise generator? Earplugs are not doing it for me.

Umm...
I don't know...a white noise generator is...well, a white noise generator...

I mean, on the cheap you could turn the contrast and brightness all the way down on your TV, tune to a channel that doesn't exist and turn the volume pretty low...

If you have a laptop in your room...
http://www.simplynoise.com/

I mean, audio quality is not the point here. Personally, if you can find one that oscillates, that's a good thing.

This one looks particularly intriguing...
http://www.vat19.com/dvds/sleepmate-white-noise-generator.cfm?adid=gbase

It might be the best 50 bucks you ever spend.

donsolo
2009 September 19th, 11:42
Or get one of those Bose noise canceling headphones. Not too sure if they'll work for your kind of noise though... donsolo?


I'm new here but for the record, I do prefer the d to be lower case ;-)

Anyway, no, noise canceling will not work because it's not a constant sound. Those are good to eliminate say...white noise. It's really good to get rid of the sound of a loud AC unit, Airplane engines, car noise...

personally though, I'd rather use headphones like these: http://www.vicfirth.com/product/buynow/product.php?button=SIH1

They're like those isolation headphones you wear when you shoot guns but have headphones in them...

I have a pair and won't walk down the street because I'll get hit by a car, they're THAT quiet.

koolpenguin89
2009 September 19th, 15:08
And there's nothing worse than a wannabe audiophile.

Really? Their is nothing worse? Nazis, wife beating, baby seal clubbing? I would imagine all of those to be worse than someone who can't afford a true hi-fi audio system, but still wants more sound quality than a stock car stereo. :)

Dylan

iThinkergoiMac
2009 September 19th, 15:15
The guys with subs in their cars are wannabe audiophiles or hood rats. And there's nothing worse than a wannabe audiophile.

Glad I've been informed. I thought I simply wanted a more balanced bass response out of my car, but I'm glad I know I'm just a wannabe audiophile. It's little discoveries like this that brighten my day.:hv20-smilie87:

Mars
2009 September 19th, 19:26
If you have a laptop in your room...
http://www.simplynoise.com/

great link. here is my favorite: I turned on the gray button that says "brown/red noise" and turned on the oscillation. kind'a like living next to the ocean :hv20-smilie70:
I hope I never need it for the OPs purpose though...

FoolsCrow
2009 September 19th, 22:10
Ha ha. Funny KoolPenguin.

donsolo
2009 September 20th, 06:00
Glad I've been informed. I thought I simply wanted a more balanced bass response out of my car, but I'm glad I know I'm just a wannabe audiophile. It's little discoveries like this that brighten my day.:hv20-smilie87:

Evening your bass response is one thing, claiming that you "enjoy listening to every note an artist records." is very much another. I personally think a modest subwoofer in a car can be helpful but I've never seen one that wasn't too loud in my experience.

And here's a link for you: www.stroudaudio.com/livequality.pdf it's about upward masking. That's when you have too much bass and wind up actually reducing the overall apparent volume of the higher frequencies.

donsolo
2009 September 20th, 06:15
Really? Their is nothing worse? Nazis, wife beating, baby seal clubbing? I would imagine all of those to be worse than someone who can't afford a true hi-fi audio system, but still wants more sound quality than a stock car stereo. :)
Dylan

Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism but at least it's an ethos....
Wife Beating, Nazis, yes they're worse.

But only if they carry on about their little swastika hobby or "domestic discipline" policies...
(If you can't see the humor in that, I apologize.)

A wanna be audiophile is someone who doesn't understand frequency response, the fletcher-munson curve or noise floor but continues to carry on about consumer level home theater or car system that really is just a subwoofer in the trunk.

Now, I've produced some hip hop records and I love me some bass but the reality is the car is a place to casually listen to music. Well, I don't know, maybe you're going to go park in front of 7/11 and listen to that new Dre record...

And honestly, a good hi fi system can be put together pretty cheap. I mean, an old school amp can be found even in garage sales and a pair of speakers run about $300-400 tops to get started. Shoot, I've seen decent speakers at goodwill for under $50.

Or you can spend thousands upon thousands to build a beautiful system and more power to you. The only reason I can justify mine is because I use it to make a large portion of my income.

I'm not saying to go out and buy a big system, I'm saying that you shouldn't talk like an audiophile until you at least know what goes into it.

In the car, you're giving up a LOT of fidelity to that noise floor and the way I look at it (getting to listen to master tapes on a regular basis) is that it's just not worth the effort. Build a good home system instead.

So check this out, a big part of what I do as a mastering engineer is actually alter the audio so it cuts through all that noise floor in the car. I degrade the sound quality on the whole to make sure it sounds good on car stereos. You can't go to wal-mart and get the "Car master" and "home master" of a CD. That's why all those old school audio cats love vinyl, they weren't mastered with the car in mind.

cgbier
2009 September 20th, 06:29
So check this out, a big part of what I do as a mastering engineer is actually alter the audio so it cuts through all that noise floor in the car. I degrade the sound quality on the whole to make sure it sounds good on car stereos. You can't go to wal-mart and get the "Car master" and "home master" of a CD. That's why all those old school audio cats love vinyl, they weren't mastered with the car in mind.
Interesting point. :hv20-smilie77:
I always thought that music was optimized for shoulder mount ghetto blasters (do they still exist, or do I just show my backwardness?) and iPods.... never thought about cars.

donsolo
2009 September 20th, 09:28
Interesting point. :hv20-smilie77:
I always thought that music was optimized for shoulder mount ghetto blasters (do they still exist, or do I just show my backwardness?) and iPods.... never thought about cars.

I mean, these are concepts that filmmakers need to thinka bout today too. I mean, the youtube delivery method won't actually allow for THX standards of audio because it won't be very loud at all. The shoulder mount ghetto blasters have been replaced by iPods.

The biggest concern though is "will this be loud enough for the car?" I mean, you can read about the Loudness war, it's happening in film too, especially action film. i watched the Matrix Revolutions and it's too damn loud.

Your big concerns with music mastering come down to "what's this going to sound like through a tiny laptop speaker? What's this going to sound like in a car? What about with a sub? What's this going to sound like on an itunes playlist or on your iPod set to shuffle? Can you actually HEAR what I'm doing to the audio? (Yes is a bad thing)"

Color mastering and audio mastering I can't imagine to be that dissimilar.