Do you see the difference before and after removing pulldown?

[freeflight]

Do you see the diffence before and after removing pulldown for 24P clips? If yes, what is the difference?

I follow the steps on Eugenia's webpage to remove pulldown on a few 24P clips. Then I convert them to mpg using Adobe Media Encorder in Premiere 2.0. After playing the original clips and new clips (pulldown removed) back to back several times, I think the original clips looks less smooth at certain motion scenes.

After removing pulldown and render a final mpeg file, am I supposed to see a smoother video?
Or is this my imagination after a long day? :hv20-smilie51:

Please share your expereince?

Thanks,

Kevin

[ffaf 07]

It should be smoother, as far as I know. The pulldown puts your 24P frames in a 60i stream, so you get some frame blending and whatnot. Without that, you get 24 true progressive frames, which is what you want.

[Lunchbox]

Most of the time people don't find it smoother right away.... it isn't because of the 24p. It's because the video is converted using a lossless codec. The resulting file is huge causing lots of processing power from the CPU and hdd. It ended up jerky playback. However, if you can get over that part, editing your video, then output to WMV, m2t, quicktime, mp4... that 24p video will play back smooth.

[Eugenia Loli-Queru]

You could have search the board before posting, these pics were posted before:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/missilemike/494788313/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/missilemike/494788323/

Yes, you CAN see the difference, on high motion scenes. If your movie is extremely static or it's meant to go back to the HDV tape, then don't bother removing pulldown.

[freeflight]

Those intermediate AVI files are huge. They don't play smoothly on my laptop.

The final 24P mepg clip is smoother than the original clip (with pulldown). So after all it wan't my imagination. :hv20-smilie84:

[Eugenia Loli-Queru]

Well, that's normal. Huge files take a while to load and then load them to RAM, so they will be slow to playback while editing. Most professionals edit this way too. But that's the price to pay in order to get a real 24p. It deserves the time and effort.

[dr jones]

the difference is tremendous, IMO.


what's the point of making high definition videos if it's going to be flawed by nasty interlaced lines?

removing pulldown is a must.

[duketh]

You could have search the board before posting,

this is happening more and more people are just making threads without searching the boards first. I know i did it but its becomming more frequent with the amount of new users.

[dr jones]

this is happening more and more people are just making threads without searching the boards first. I know i did it but its becomming more frequent with the amount of new users.

no joke. i think almost every thread in this section is about pulldown...


there should be a new rule where new members with under 50 posts cannot start threads. that way they are forced to use the search function.

[Lunchbox]

the difference is tremendous, IMO.


what's the point of making high definition videos if it's going to be flawed by nasty interlaced lines?

removing pulldown is a must.

HD video is not just 24p. 1080i/60i is also HD video with interlaced lines.

[freeflight]

Can I creat new thread now since i am over 50 posts? :hv20-smilie03:

Seriously, I spend quite sometime read this forum and blogs. My post is mainly to verify if what I saw matches what you experienced guys saw.


no joke. i think almost every thread in this section is about pulldown...

there should be a new rule where new members with under 50 posts cannot start threads. that way they are forced to use the search function.

[duketh]

no joke. i think almost every thread in this section is about pulldown...


there should be a new rule where new members with under 50 posts cannot start threads. that way they are forced to use the search function.

This might help. It just going to get so messy with multiple threads on the same issue which seems to be from over excited new users.


Can I creat new thread now since i am over 50 posts? :hv20-smilie03:

Seriously, I spend quite sometime read this forum and blogs. My post is mainly to verify if what I saw matches what you experienced guys saw.



if its an issue within the subject of the thread then it should stay within that thread until it becomes larger than the original subject imho.

board nazi is growing within me.