A-cam dII 'High Definition RAW Format Motion Picture Camera'

[suta]

http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/2845534073_c2c5baed20_o.jpg

"The preliminary price for A-cam dII is €6.950"

[mattias]

yeah, it's cool for sure. i sort of know one of the people behind it so i'll try to get a better look asap. will let you know.

/matt

[lordtangent]

I like the fact that it shoots to DNG (and open standard by Adobe) and that it has interchangeable lenses. I DON'T like that it uses a special flash mag. (Shades of P2 anyone?)

It's lower res than the Scarlet and more expensive. They are lucky they are shipping first By the time Scarlet ships, native workflow in Adobe stuff will be likely be fairly mature and I'm sure other software will probably have native workflow options available.

[Gymnut808]

What an odd design, although it may be pretty ergonomic; the back that's chopped off, looks like it would sit on your shoulder.

[Erik Bien]

Looks as if it could be a wee bit awkward to use if you're left-eyed (as I am).

[kafeero]

Looks like a specialty cam for like satellites or for tanks. Not for home videos or for the next big production.

[Ian-T]

Here (http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/) is a new cam by IKONOSKOP called A-cam dll that records RAW...distributes it as 1920x1080p in its native 1.78:1 aspect ratio without any loss of pixels. Framerate is 1 - 60 fps and a 12 bit color depth. Sensor CCD: 10,6 mm x 6 mm (Super-16) File size 3,5 MB/frame in RAW


It does not have the many variable frame rates as the Red One...but...at around $8,000.00 U.S. I think it should compete well....you think? Or is it more or less a Scarlet competitor?

[Ian-T]

Well...seeing that Scarlet would offer more for the money when it comes out... this might be overpriced. But...then again it has interchangeable lens....which is important. I don't think this is specialized for any particular work....they also made a funny shaped 16mm camera. It's meant for making movies. I think if the price were at least cut in half ...I would opt for this over anything else out there.

Erik....maybe you can flip this thing upside down and work with it as a lefty.

[NathanTaylor]

Yeah, I'm more intrigued by the 16mm camera. That would make much more sense then the digital.

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They've been selling the 16mm cam for some years. I was always fascinated by them, and that 16mm cam produced some neat "resolution" at an affordable price.
I still have their demo on this computer somewhere.

It's cool to see they're delving into digital. I have a lot of respect for those guys.

[David]

That would make much more sense then the digital.

??? Would make much more sense?

[Chicken Warrior]

what I don't get is who would want to record raw footage if it filled up your HDD-add on in 15 mins?

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Just downloaded their PDF too.

That's pretty cool!

And C-Mount lenses. Cool again.

Oh, and Global Shutter CCD, no rolling shutter. Cool once more!

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what I don't get is who would want to record raw footage if it filled up your HDD-add on in 15 mins?

Because it gives you the best possible quality for further post-processing.

15 minutes is a decent time, considering this cam is probably mainly for indy films, music videos, and such.

[Ian-T]

Some more info:

http://www.viddler.com/explore/blacktar/videos/1/

[Ian-T]

Even more:

http://www.macvideo.tv/camera-technology/features/index.cfm?articleId=104645

[Ian-T]

According to the builder the camera..for now...shoots at variable frame rates 1 through 60 frames per second. I think it's cool that you can pick or choose your frame rate. A couple of people over at DVXUser stated that they got the chance to see some footage at a both the other day... One of them said:

I saw some raw footage and there is no noise in the picture. Not even in the darkest parts. Simply put: It was within the best footage I've ever seen. Period.

Now I'm curious. If you watch the second video i posted the maker was a little coy about the frame rates. it will definitely do the 1-60 fps...but it seems like there are more tweaks to this unit in the works...... Interesting. Anyways.....3CCD's global shutter...uncompressed.......wow.

[lordtangent]

...3CCD's


It's a single chip camera. (It's not possible to use cine lenses on a 3-chip.)

[Ian-T]

You're right about the single chip.

I've heard that before. I'm curious but what makes a cinema lens different from any other type of lens?

[lordtangent]

"Video lenses" (meaning the lenses made for 3-Chip cameras) have what is called a "reverse telephoto" design. As a result the back-focus is much deeper, which allows them to work with the prism block of a 3 chip camera.

Most of the time, Cine lenses (and SLR lenses for that matter) are a little more simple and don't have the reverse telephoto design.

[tkmslee]

Man I just want a camera with a 35mm sized sensor and 35mm lens mount. i don't care if it's only HD. With the new Nikon and Canon video SLR cams, you would think it would not be hard to do for a good price.

[Braceface]

I'm still liking the 5D a lot more, AND for 1/4th the price, and 35mm.

[mattias]

there are many things you can do with the dII that the canon can't do, and vice versa. they are designed for totally different applications. when considering cost, remember that there are c-mount 12-120 f/1.8 lenses on ebay for less than an 18-80 f/3.5-5.6 for the canon. not to mention primes.

/matt

[Ian-T]

Check out some very quick video samples from the DII Here:
http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/footage/
Look down on bottom right of page you will find some zip files. They are very short clips...

This is a very sharp cam. There is a night driving shot that reminded me of what CCD's do with vertical smear. I wish it was a global CMOS. But none-the-less the image looks very good.

[booggerg]

Check out some very quick video samples from the DII Here:
http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/footage/
Look down on bottom right of page you will find some zip files. They are very short clips...

This is a very sharp cam. There is a night driving shot that reminded me of what CCD's do with vertical smear. I wish it was a global CMOS. But none-the-less the image looks very good.

!? what kind of test footage is that? Better than nothing I suppose..

[Ian-T]

It's all they had available.

[booggerg]

It's all they had available.

I know, why would they even put that up? makes the camera forgettable.. better to wait and wow us with real samples.

[spideralex90]

I know, why would they even put that up? makes the camera forgettable.. better to wait and wow us with real samples.

Yeah the samples were not impressive. Hopefully they make something better later.

[simulacro]

Yeah the samples were not impressive. Hopefully they make something better later.

...but the night shoot has zero noise. it is beatiful

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The clip is also in line to their original footage with the 16mm cam.

I still remember the video, it was sweet!

[spideralex90]

...but the night shoot has zero noise. it is beatiful

Yeah but it's not a very long shot, and it's nothing too great to look at. Hopefully the future footage will be better.

[Ian-T]

Yet another small video..http://www.ikonoskop.com/files/87/A-camdII_Bil_h264.mov.zip

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Quite a bit of purple fringe, but it's looking promising.