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WarrickF
2007 July 18th, 18:51
Hi All,

I'm reading some specs for TV and was hoping someone could help me understand \ check that my footage is within these bounds.

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1. For digital:
Tone average level must be -20 dBFS.
Content average levels must be -20 dBFS.
Content peak must not exceed -10 dBFS.
2. For analog:
Tone must be 0 dB @ +4 Ref.
Average levels must be between -4 dB and 0 dB @ +4 Ref.
Peak must not exceed +3 dB.
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I'm using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum and Sony Sound Forge 8 and would like to check that I'm within these limits.

Almost all my tools report sound as dB. Why is digital measured in dBFS and how can I check these values?

Erik Bien
2007 July 18th, 19:07
I'm out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBFS). Anybody?

fstopopen
2007 July 18th, 23:40
okay, I'm sure I am going to sound retarted here, but this is what I have always done in the past. (and without sending my resume, let it be said that I have A LOT of experiance in television production AND audio production) When you view a meter with both paradigms, the analog numbers and the digital numbers, -20db on the digital scale is EXACTLY the same as 0db on the analog scale. For some reason most NLE's use the analog numbering system. So I try to PEG "0" but not even a little bit above. That will translate to the -20 you are looking for on the digital side. I'm sure there are some technical reasons or explinations, but in practical terms, just punch it to zero.

drake

joachim
2007 July 19th, 10:12
correct me if i'm wrong.

0dB analog is a standard, analog equipment leaves some room to go over this point, without crucial damage to the sound. sometimes going over the 0 is done on purpose to have some natural analoge compression.

a digital signal doesn't allow a signal to go over the digital 0 level, without totaly damage the sound (clicks, ...).

so the analoge 0 (db) is set according a digital -20 (dBfs) to leave a safe headroom while recording.

for film, with all the recording sound under control, a -15 dBfs is offtened used, where in recording of ENG/EFP for tv, with the use of limiters, you can use -18 dBfs.

all these values are set using a 1000 Hz reference tone.