Avid Products

[indyscott]

Has anyone tried Avid Liquid or Xpress Pro? I Downloaded the trial of Liquid but it is crippled so bad I cant get a feel for it. I am not sure it even works right. I know and I am ok that there is the logo branded in the center. What it does that bothers me is it has horrible lines and interference across the screen. It is so bad for a few seconds I cant even make out the video. Then it will be ok for a few seconds.
I would really like to use and learn a professional type program. I have been using Vegas Movie Studio 7 and really don't like the slow preview window. I think moving up to Vegas7 or Avid Xpress Pro might be the best. Anyone have any recommendations?

I am not financially able to buy a MAC and software at this time. I have a really capable PC.


Thanks for your time,

Scott

[terjeber]

I think you might find that the full version is equally crippled... by design :hv20-smilie03:

[Worley]

Vegas Users: If your preview window is slow, then you may have the settings wrong.

Above the preview monitor there is a button that may read Draft, Preview, Good or Best. Set it to Preview (Auto). And that should get rid of the slow preview.

Most other NLEs require a good graphics card to display a preview. Vegas is different - it used the CPU.

[indyscott]

I have now tried the trial of Vegas 7 and my preview window is fast. I can use basically any preview mode and be ok. Vegas 7 seems to work alot better than Vegas Movie Studio.

Scott

[nate108]

Has anyone tried Avid Liquid or Xpress Pro? I Downloaded the trial of Liquid but it is crippled so bad I cant get a feel for it. I am not sure it even works right. I know and I am ok that there is the logo branded in the center. What it does that bothers me is it has horrible lines and interference across the screen. It is so bad for a few seconds I cant even make out the video. Then it will be ok for a few seconds.
I would really like to use and learn a professional type program. I have been using Vegas Movie Studio 7 and really don't like the slow preview window. I think moving up to Vegas7 or Avid Xpress Pro might be the best. Anyone have any recommendations?

I am not financially able to buy a MAC and software at this time. I have a really capable PC.


Thanks for your time,

Scott


hi scott

avid xpress pro is IMO the best editing software you can get.

the software is simply awesome.

it runs great on a pc as long as u obey the system specifications.

i have been a film and video editor for 14 years and used a variety of systems and i always come back to avid.

i am using my hv20 for both work and home.
at work i plug it into a avid media composer adrenaline HD edit suite and avid lets u select 1080/50 hdv for input (in australia we are on PAL - no frame issues here) in good light the pictures are on par with the high end standard def. cameras we sometimes use like digital betacam and xd cam.

at home i edit my home movies from the hv20 on my laptop (dell m60) on avid xpress pro. the software takes alot of the grunt work off the ram, cpu and videocard. my laptop is not a hi end model but avid runs smooth - i also use the laptop version for work when we have jobs overseas. firewire external drives and firewire in and out of the edit system works great.

if you need any help on specs/ compatablity avid has a list of system requirements on their web site. these are not set in stone and i have run my xpress pro software on non recommended hardware, desktops and laptops
like ATI based sytems etc.


i would steer clear of liquid all together - this is a terible product.
simple editing procedures like overlaying and inserting require a switch in mode which is so slow and tedious.

goodluck

nate108

[FreddieZ]

Nate- I agree with you about Avid and Avid Liquid. I need to get a new pc for XProHD in the coming months and I am curious about your experiences with ATI video cards- why is that a safe or better choice, over the Nvidia cards they seem to exclusively favor? I want to save $$$ and open possibilities by getting a high-power custom built "approved but un-approved" pc rather than a refurb avid-approved Dell or hp which is all I can afford. I'm looking at this place, btw: smksuperstore.com which seems to only use ATI cards, but otherwise has specs I need for editing.


hi scott

avid xpress pro is IMO the best editing software you can get.

the software is simply awesome.

it runs great on a pc as long as u obey the system specifications.

i have been a film and video editor for 14 years and used a variety of systems and i always come back to avid.

i am using my hv20 for both work and home.
at work i plug it into a avid media composer adrenaline HD edit suite and avid lets u select 1080/50 hdv for input (in australia we are on PAL - no frame issues here) in good light the pictures are on par with the high end standard def. cameras we sometimes use like digital betacam and xd cam.

at home i edit my home movies from the hv20 on my laptop (dell m60) on avid xpress pro. the software takes alot of the grunt work off the ram, cpu and videocard. my laptop is not a hi end model but avid runs smooth - i also use the laptop version for work when we have jobs overseas. firewire external drives and firewire in and out of the edit system works great.

if you need any help on specs/ compatablity avid has a list of system requirements on their web site. these are not set in stone and i have run my xpress pro software on non recommended hardware, desktops and laptops
like ATI based sytems etc.


i would steer clear of liquid all together - this is a terible product.
simple editing procedures like overlaying and inserting require a switch in mode which is so slow and tedious.

goodluck

nate108

[nate108]

Hi FreedieZ

The ati scenario IMO comes down to the fact that
a software company can’t provide support for every type of hardware.
so they pick 1 and provide full support for that product. this is most likely due to company affiliations or money more than the hardware being better than its competitor.

if you are planning to buy and run avid xpress pro hd then you should use the
approved hardware - as then you will be able to receive full support for your software.

you need to look at what u want to achieve.

if you are making programs for television or cinema broadcast or DVD distribution then you will have to spend a lot of money on a system because you need to meet technical requirements like hdcam tape delivery and
minimal compression.

however if you are using your hv20 and making clips for web or corporate DVDs, weddings etc then you don’t need to buy the hp avid workstations - these are high end pcs built for avids high end HD capable software/hardware like media composer adrenaline HD etc.

if you are planning to run avid xpress pro hd with your hv20
you can just use a firewire based set up and a non approved system.
the avid xpress pro hd software is the same piece of software for
both desktops and laptops. so if the software works with a
Pentium m, Quadro FX Go1400 laptop it will work with an AMD X2 3800+
939 dual core, 7800gt desktop (these are my home pc specs and avid works fine on that as well)

you just need to meet the minimum system specs.
ram, cpu speed, openGL strong graphics these are all things needed to run avid xpress pro HD well.

sound is a different ball game - as some sound cards do not work at all with avid. but the onboard sound from your motherboard will nearly always work.

the ati based xpress pro system I used was a laptop/notebook.
it worked fine - no problems what so ever. but this was not a HD version it was just DV / SD. I used it to make web clips and daily news feeds and to log and offline capture tapes for use later in a high end avid suite.

below are the minimum system and some hardware approved specs for avid xpress pro hd:

http://www.avid.com/products/xpresspro/specs.asp


hope I didn’t ramble to much

ps - sorry to high jack the original post - but I guess the info is still relevant to some extent

:> nate108

[FreddieZ]

Thanks, Nate. good points all- i'm thinking it over.

[lasssman]

Has anyone tried Avid Liquid or Xpress Pro? I Downloaded the trial of Liquid but it is crippled so bad I cant get a feel for it.

I've been using Liquid for several years now, and while there were problems shortly after Avid purchased Pinnacle, the current version (7.2) is performing extremely well on DV. Reports of HDV performance from members of the Avid Liquid forum are also positive.

However, Liquid - like all NLEs - has some specific and demanding hardware requirements, and whatever NLE you choose, be careful to make sure you understand the details of the hardware required to drive it. There is nothing worse than trying to edit with a system that does not meet the software demands!

Hope this helps ...